Social security # on Florida application?

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Has anyone experienced any advantage to providing their social security number on the Florida concealed weapon license application?
 
We have to provide it out here in NY/NJ.You can just write it on a seperate piece of paper then have the clerk tear it up in front of you and toss it in the trash when done.
 
Pretty sure you don't have to provide it. Isn't there a law stating that no government agency can refuse you service for refusing to provide your social security number? Or is that only in certain states?
 
well i know when i applied for mine( in MA), the application said " drivers license number or SSN(optional)"..

...but when i went to the police station and they were entering it into the computer the officer asked for my SSN and said " i know it says optional...but its not".

...i dunno, i dont have a problem with it, if you cant trust the police with it, who can you trust?......
 
I don't know the code but it is illegal to require an SSN for anything other than Social Security Administration purposes.

That said lots of places do. Not using it for some things would most likely require legal action.
 
I WAS TOLD I DID NOT HAVE TO PUT IT BUT IT HELPS

point in case there was a name similar to mine and my SS # was the deciding factor that they were not me
 
It's optional in Florida. The only reason I would make it available is if there were problem with the background check.
 
hometheaterman said:
Pretty sure you don't have to provide it. Isn't there a law stating that no government agency can refuse you service for refusing to provide your social security number? Or is that only in certain states?
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I believe that's the Privacy Act of 1974

In addition, that section makes it illegal for Federal, state, and local
government agencies to deny any rights, privileges or benefits to
individuals who refuse to provide their SSNs unless the disclosure is
required by Federal statute. (The other exception is if the disclosure
is for use in a record system which required the SSN before 1975. (5
USC 552a note). So anytime you're dealing with a government institution
and you're asked for your Social Security Number, look for a Privacy Act
Statement. If there isn't one, complain and don't give your number. If
the statement is present, read it. Once you've read the explanation of
whether the number is optional or required, and what will be done with
your number if you provide it, you'll be able to decide for yourself
whether to fill in the number.
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Full Source.
 
No. But then again, I've never given it. I also have a rather unique name so there's little chance of any confusion.
 
My SS number is all over town. I worry about my number being misused by the numb-nuts at the SS office more than anywhere else.

Thanx, Russ
 
I always give my SSN when requested by the government or my state or anyone else in an official capacity -- just so they know its me. I don't think there's much chance they are going to sell my details to an identity thief. I'd much rather they don't confuse me with some felon and the SSN is my unique identifier. My name is not unique, my SSN is. (Lots of organizations have my photo and fingerprints too as I'm an immigrant and have had to go through so many background checks!) Because of all these checks, I'm also a "trusted traveler" and when I enter the USA I don't have to see an immigration officer any more, I just have to swipe my fingers on a fingerprint reader and the machine prints me an admission card. I don't see much but advantages from having a unique identifying number and having been pre-screened and deemed trustworthy. Your SSN is just a way of distinguishing you from other people with the same name.
 
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A lot of states used SSN for drivers license number or required it ptior to 1974 and a lot still do. As a cop when I ran a DL it was rare that the ssn was not on the printout.
 
M-Cameron wrote: "...i dunno, i dont have a problem with it, if you cant trust the police with it, who can you trust?......"

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
 
I gave mine and have no idea if it affected my application process, but I received my CCW in twelve days. Fastest of anyone else I know, was pretty happy about that.
 
When you retire your SSN becomes your Medicare number. Every doctor, quack, hospital, and clerk you encounter for the rest of your life has access to your SSN.
 
I assume that my addition of my SSN to my application was one of the thingss that sped mine up.

I had a three week turnaround time for a mail-in app back in april, when many who applied with me got theirs 2 months after mailing.

Reccipe for success:
*return reciept on letter (they know you know they recieved it, thus have to act faster)
*cashier's check (clears faster)
*include all documentation as prescribed, filled out as much as possible.
*include proof of residency for minimun rearward timeframe (I included scanned copies of cable bills, with the account info blacked out)
*cardboard stuff the envelope to assure printcard and photos are unharmed.

That should pretty much do it, it worked well for me.
 
M-Cameron wrote: "...i dunno, i dont have a problem with it, if you cant trust the police with it, who can you trust?......"

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
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should i be worried that the local PD are going to take out loans in my name..........or be selling my info to Somali identity thieves......?


as stated before.....for a long time you drivers license number Was your SSN......and every police officer had access to that.....and i dont recall a spree of identity thefts stemming from police departments.
 
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mustang_steve said:
I assume that my addition of my SSN to my application was one of the thingss that sped mine up.

I had a three week turnaround time for a mail-in app back in april, when many who applied with me got theirs 2 months after mailing.

Reccipe for success:
*return reciept on letter (they know you know they recieved it, thus have to act faster) [Uh, no. They have 30 days to notify you of a problem, 90 days to issue]
*cashier's check (clears faster)[They dont care if it clears or not]
*include all documentation as prescribed, filled out as much as possible.
*include proof of residency for minimun rearward timeframe (I included scanned copies of cable bills, with the account info blacked out) [Not required for US Citizens]
*cardboard stuff the envelope to assure printcard and photos are unharmed.

That should pretty much do it, it worked well for me.
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brbroyer, how could you determine when the 90 days started if you don't have any proof? This provides that proof, thus provides a reason for them to get it done sooner as it is being kept track of. I applied along with some friends of mine who all went to the same class I went to. I got mine about 2-3 weeks before anyone else.

I was the only one to do the above as well, the rest just mailed them in bare minium required.

I just decided to do the shotgun approach and throw so much data at them that was mentioned on the forms as possible. The residency check is relevant as well for those that just moved into the area. I did it because I changed addresses locally, and was hoping it would prevent confusion, which would be more delays.

Basically I wanted it to be two transactions...me mailing stuff out, and them mailing me my permit....it worked :)
 
Without a SSI number, a Criminal History check is useless.

When twenty hits come back on the name and possibly with the same date of birth, there is no way to determine which one is the correct reply. So there is a very possible potential of delaying the results. While you may think your name is unique, don't bet on it.

What I wouldn't want is it printed on any document. No reports were every released except for official use with a SSI or DL number on them unless it was to the individual or their legal representation or other LE agency.
 
It doesn't matter if you give it or not. With your DL# you can get you SS#. Also just for info many years ago the Highway Dept got in trouble in SC for selling lists of name and addresses of people with DLs.
 
If your name is John Smith and there is a John Smith who is a felon, your SSN may distinguish you from the John Smith who is a felon. Identity theft is a problem, but so many organizations have your SSN, so what is the State of Florida wants it. I have a CCL from Florida and quite frankly providing my SSN to the state doesn't bother me at all. I'm more worried about what the feds than the State of Florida.
 
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