Softening the Mosin Nagant's Kiss

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I got a twin to that bruise before I had a recoil pad put on my shotgun. Mind you, that's a 20-gauge semiauto that turned me purple after 50 rounds. Compare your basic 20-gauge semi to a Mosin.... So no, thanks, I'll put a nice fat Limbsaver on my Mosin.
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Springmom, are you removing the steel plate as well, or leaving the weapon intact and just adding the pad? I'm thinking of sanding down the stock on mine and removing the plate entirely.

For those who think it's being weak, it ain't, it about the different angles and locations of the muscles in women. I imagine sanding down the toe a bit will make a lot of difference. Guns without a protruding toe work much better for me and many otehr women. I did 100 rounds with my 12 gauge today (none of the guys showed up in the rain for our usual two rounds of trap...had to make up for their absence by shooting four) and no bruise or any other problem to show for it. Just some burst capillaries 'cuz I forgot and wore a bra with a clasp right over my shoulder pocket. That gun fits me pretty well.
 
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A bruise is, to the best of my knowledge, due to internal bleeding. No blood, no bruise.
I don't get bruised by the Mosin (though I haven't shot it much). I can't detect a pulse in either wrist though, for that matter... so I may be a zombie already.

For those who think it's being weak, it ain't
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Must agree. My father - who has a lot more muscle than I do and a lot more long-gun shooting experience - got a bruise from a handful of rounds from the Mosin. I didn't.
 
I tend to use a limbsaver pad and load the Mosin with light ball ammo instead of the heavy ball. That 40-60 grain lighter bullet really cuts down on recoil.
 
I threadded the barrel on mine and installed a Krinkov brake just for fun but it did actually tame the recoil to some degree.
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That bruise looks like the one I had after my first day (and 200ish rounds, though only half full power) with a 12ga shotgun. Well, I somehow managed to bruise my bicep as well due to a sloppy mount or two. I spent a painful week after that. It happens.

That said, I didn't have the same problem with any of my Mosins. I don't think I'd want to do anything to reduce that muzzle flash/bark. :evil:
 
Well, I somehow managed to bruise my bicep as well due to a sloppy mount or two. I spent a painful week after that. It happens.
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:evil:My cousins took a relative of theirs out shotgunning for the first time about six weeks ago. He was great at hitting the clays after years of video-games honing hte hand-eye, but his mount left a lot to be desired. Poor guy's entire upper arm was black and purple the next day. He had to work too. I'd be surprised if it's faded yet.
 
A note of advice for anyone reading this who are fairly new to Mosins: When your mind starts telling you to stop shooting because your shoulder hurts, listen to it. I went a bit farther than I probably should have one day, and by the time I actually did decide to stop shooting, I was flinching every shot uncontrollably and subconsciously.
 
I can't believe how much "powder" talk went on before the natural solution of a recoil pad came up. Really, they are nice for more than just how they help your shoulder hold up, they help your barrel stay lower for a quicker second shot. I've heard that 'Sims' is the best, and that's the only one I've tried, except for the one that came with my FAL, so that's all that I know.

It turned my AR10 into a rifle that was fun to shoot more than 6 times in one sitting.
 
I tried the washcloth on the butt with duct tape. Doesn't work that well. Better than a buttplate yes, but not that great.

I had an old mousepad sitting around (small ones won't work). The kind that is cloth on one side, black rubber on the other. Took the buttplate and used it to trace two buttplate shapes. Cut them out with scissors. Then put them on the back of the buttplate. To hold them in place, I used the remainder of the pad (which was cut in a way to be like a strip) to wrap around them horizontally. It was tall enough to span the whole length of the buttplate from top to bottom. Then I took thin strapping tape and taped vertically around the buttstock to hold it down.

Works great. In fact, it is more soft and absorbing than 1/2 of the buttpads I've tried before on other hard recoiling rifles. However, it isn't as good as a high quality buttpad. Then again, it isn't $30 either.
 
Hodgdon recommends 60% of maximum loads of H4895 as an all purpose reduced load. In a 7.62X54R with a 125 grain bullet, the max H4895 charge is 50 grains, so a 2000 fps ballpark reduced load would be 30 grains. Makes sense, as the H4895 load shown for a 7.62X39 with 125 grain is 28 grains.
 
Using lighter bullets will do a lot to lighten recoil.
I tried this with some 123 grain .311 bullets for the AK when I had my M-39 and Enfield. I used a lighter powder charge too and roughly approximated the 7.62x39 ballistics out of a Mosin. They were pretty gentle loads.
 
Springmom, are you removing the steel plate as well, or leaving the weapon intact and just adding the pad? I'm thinking of sanding down the stock on mine and removing the plate entirely.
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I'll only remove the plate if I decide I need to shorten the stock for proper LOP. Most likely I'll use a slip-on. Archerandshooter, macho man that he is, will probably shoot it without. (and then ask me to get him an ice pack for the bruise he'll get, lol lol lol)

Springmom
 
A real man would weld some metal studs to the steel butt plate of his M44
ok maybe not. well maybe you could weld some nice patterned metal to it to at least leave a good lookin bruise :)
 
Ahh, another shooter had enough of recoil.... The perfect time to start casting your own! Go over to Castboolits.com and you'll find a wealth of information about loading for your rifle. I can tell you that for top accuracy, don't go down in bullet weight, stay with the Lyman 311299 or 314299 (200 grn gas check) or something similar, and use my favorite load of 16-18 grns of 2400. You will find excellent accuracy and very mild recoil @ about 1600-1700 fps.
 
My old M-38, now sold, with the cheapie slip on recoil pad. Worked like a charm. Still have the thing floating around here some where. Don't need it with the No4 Mk1*.

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Hold it correctly and it should not hurt. I've never had a problem with getting bruises with my Mosins when I've kept them in tight, even off of a bench.
 
It's kind of ironic to me that the picture uses a rifle produced by an oppressive Communist regime to symbolize freedom.
 
A real man would weld some metal studs to the steel butt plate of his M44
ok maybe not. well maybe you could weld some nice patterned metal to it to at least leave a good lookin bruise
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ROTFL!!! Make it a "tribal pattern" and I could have a temporary tat :D:D:D

Maybe not ;)

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Eldon519 said:
It's kind of ironic to me that the picture uses a rifle produced by an oppressive Communist regime to symbolize freedom.
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Yeah, I don't think that a Mosin-Nagant is the best rifle to use in a "freedom" picture, considering the millions of innocents who were on the wrong end of the barrel of one. It would be just like using a G43 made by Buchenwald slave labor.
 
The Mosin kicks because the stock doesn't fit most people, at all.

Now put on old-fashioned Russian Winter clothes and it will fit better and you'll have padding too, but otherwise, you can soften it up by replacing the stock with one that fits.

My .30-06 is downright pleasant to shoot -- same recoil, totally different geometry.

Fit matters.
 
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