Speer Load Check

[SlowFuse]

Looking at a 125 grain Speer target style hollow point to use in 38 special.

The online data has a decent selection of powders to use, but curious if anyone has a printed Speer manual that lists more options than the web version does. Attached a shot of what i'm looking at, loading the 125 grain UCHP part #4013.

I have HP-38, CFEPistol and BlueDot powders open right now to use as far as faster burning pistol powders go. I'd rather not open another jug just to load 100 rounds, but will if necessary... Have 4 of the powders listed on this sheet, sealed. I bought these on a whim when Speer was having their rebate a couple months back and was thinking I might as well use them.

Also highlighted the DNR (do not reduce) column, a quick look showed this was not typical with other 38 special Speer data.

Thanks for any input.

 

[.308 Norma]

Sorry SlowFuse - the Speer #14 Manual I have sitting in front of me doesn't list HP-38, CFEPistol or Blue Dot for use with any of their 125 grain jacketed bullets. For that matter, neither does my older Speer #13 Manual.
And all of those "DNR" powder charges listed in both manuals for Speer 125 grain jacketed bullets are kind of surprising to me too. I'd never noticed that before. You're right - it doesn't seem typical for other Speer 38 Special load data.
I remember the dire warnings about going below minimum charges for those Speer half-jacket bullets they used to make. But that was to avoid leaving a stuck half-jacket in the barrel of a gun. I wonder if Speer is worried about something along those lines - like sticking a whole 125 grain jacketed bullet in the barrel of a 38 Special.

 

[jmorris]

Use the 231 data for HP-38.

 

[tightgroup tiger]

Beat's the hell out of me.
http://www.louiscandell.com/pdf/firearm-catalogs/2006_speer_bullets_catalog.pdf
According to what Speer is saying here the jacket is bonded to the core to defeat jacket/core separation.
Doesn't make sense why they would tout the UNI-Core as doing away with core/jacket separation and then list the loads as DNR.

 

[SlowFuse]

That's exactly what I needed! And Blue Dot is on there as well.

I see those are +P, so I went back to compare that data on Speer's site. Loads vary on the few powders that actually are static between the two lists. Peculiar, but not surprising given how i've seen other manuals go lower and lower on load data over time.

Thanks @jmorris

 

[jmorris]

 

[Walkalong]

Doesn't make sense why they would tout the UNI-Core as doing away with core/jacket separation and then list the loads as DNR.

It doesn't have to separate to get stuck in the barrel. DNR means just that IMHO.

 

[rg1]

Blue Dot is the worse choice ever for .38 Special. If you do test it watch closely for blooper loads and the chance of a bullet stuck in your barrel. Velocity can vary by a few hundred feet per second.