Crowman
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I am interested in getting either the M1-A Scout or SOCOM without the funky rails. Anyone have one who can offer some insights? What is a good scout scope for this weapon system?
Springfield Armory M1-A Scout or SOCOM 16
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LoneStarWings
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I went with a scout myself, I think the 2" in additional barrel length is worth it, ballistically. Both are fine rifles.
I went with a Burris 2x-7x-32mm pistol scope w/ electro-dot for my scout mount. I like the setup, and with QRW rings I can take it on and off at will to use the iron sights. I average about 1.5 MOA with match ammo from a bench rest. All parts are stock springfield, after about 1000 rounds I get a failure to fire/feed/extract about once every 200 rounds for various reasons. I clean about once every 150 rounds.
I went with a Burris 2x-7x-32mm pistol scope w/ electro-dot for my scout mount. I like the setup, and with QRW rings I can take it on and off at will to use the iron sights. I average about 1.5 MOA with match ammo from a bench rest. All parts are stock springfield, after about 1000 rounds I get a failure to fire/feed/extract about once every 200 rounds for various reasons. I clean about once every 150 rounds.
Voland
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What are you going to be using it for? The odds are that you really will not even need the scope if you are under 300 yards. These rifles have the best iron sights... I have a scout and absolutely love it!!!
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I have the Socom II and the iron sites are fantastic. I wouldn't buy this version again - all the rails hanging off the end are heavy and stupid. I suppose I could put a RIS bipod on the end and be happy with it, but I typically just leave the bottom of the rail system off of the gun.
Gunfighter123
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They are very close to the same -- you are loseing about 75 fps with the SOCOM -- I own a Socom 1 and it has the least recoil of ANY .308 battle rifle I've ever owned.
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Another Scout pick here.
P.B.Walsh
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Scout.
How does that vertical wooden stock work for you Gunfighter123?
Nice rifles everyone.
How does that vertical wooden stock work for you Gunfighter123?
Nice rifles everyone.
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Crowman
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Thanks guys. Will go for the Scout model. Plan on using Iron Sights, and have it as a vehicle gun, either mule or truck.
stiletto raggio
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I have a pistol scope on my Guide Gun and had to mount it far up on the XS rail. The Standard SOCOM has a short rail and I would not think your eye relief would be correct for a pistol scope.
CoRoMo
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Yes. Ideally, you'd go with a rifle scope, but Burris makes some good stuff.
crazed_ss
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Scout.
Z-Michigan
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Scout, because the SOCOM uses a funny gas system and because a 16" barrel marginalizes the performance benefits of a .308 compared to a 7.62x39mm.
VA27
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SOCOM 16. The Leupold Scout Scope works fine on one. Recoil on a par with the AR15. Velocity loss is negligible. HSM 150gr Police load out of the SOCOM has the same velocity that NATO ammo does out of the full length M14 barrel. Win, win.
http://www.m14tfl.com/upload/showthread.php?t=84141
The only parts that are specific to the SOCOM are:
gas lock/muzzle brake
barrel
http://www.m14tfl.com/upload/showthread.php?t=82238
real data from a socom.
now go find a 7.62X39 thats going to lauch a 150 gr fmjbt bullet at 2600 fps
The only parts that are specific to the SOCOM are:
gas lock/muzzle brake
barrel
http://www.m14tfl.com/upload/showthread.php?t=82238
real data from a socom.
now go find a 7.62X39 thats going to lauch a 150 gr fmjbt bullet at 2600 fps
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MTMilitiaman
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Both are fine rifles. I love my M1A Standard Loaded but if I had it to do again I'd get the Scout. The Scout has the best combination of balance, size, and ballistic performance, IMO. I've been intrigued by the SOCOMs but prefer the Scout.
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