Steel case ammo?

[DustyGmt]

jonnyc:
And yet thousands of gun people on the internet gnash their teeth,... as if they are Bronze Age warriors up against invading people with Iron Age (steel) shields and swords.

They must see themselves -- one day, partly hoping their guns' accessories' high costs can be justified --on top of their house, fighting off a hundred insurgents at the Second Alamo
("Give us the gasoline ! Australian accents)....and suddenly rumors become true-a case won't extract! . . "You mean I was supposed to clean Ma Chamber?"

Very imagistic....lol. Yeah, people get really wrapped up in the minutiae, I'm guilty of it too. It's part of the hobby I guess, my wife is the same way about her aquariums as I am about guns. I think the internet fuels alot of peoples concerns. You hear something, then you go to the internet to "really find out", and then get hit with hundreds maybe thousands of different conflicting answers.

20+ years ago you couldnt get 500 different answers and opinions and you tended to lean toward whatever you were told unless you knew better. It's not always easy to verify/debunk your information, that's why I like forums. You stick around long enough and you learn alot. Especially who knows what they are talking about and who doesnt really seem to......

 

[Ignition Override]

DustyGMT: if somebody plans to shoot thousands of rounds in an AR— even Without allowing the overheating seen in the LuckyGunner evaluations—

.... it is logical to want to avoid premature bore wear caused by thousands of bimetal (inner thin steel) coatings on Modern Russian bullets.

 

[illinoisburt]

DustyGMT: if somebody plans to shoot thousands of rounds in an AR— even Without allowing the overheating seen in the LuckyGunner evaluations—

.... it is logical to want to avoid premature bore wear caused by thousands of bimetal (inner thin steel) coatings on Modern Russian bullets.

Take the worst case scenario as true and expect a barrel life of just 10k in a 223/556 AR with steel versus brass with a 20k lifespan from non-stop shooting. If we used pre-covid prices from January 2020 and had just acquired a lovely new mid-tier AR for $650 and wanted plenty of ammo just in case 2020 was bonkos. My choice of 10,000 rounds could be Tula 55 grajn 223 for $2000, or something equivalent like American Eagle 556 for $3600. If my new gun shoots about the same with either ammo, then which is a better choice? I suspect you could replace some worn parts in a $650 gun with the $1600 in ammunition cost savings after the first 10,000 rounds. You might find yourself over $3000 ahead at the 20k mark when the brass was going to wear it out too.

* I don't know too many people who regularly shoot a few thousand rifle rounds at each range day except a couple machine gun guys so these comparisons are pure silliness by the way *

 

[daniel craig]

Virtually no difference in every gun I’ve ever used it in. I’m starting to think people are making crap up about it tbh.

 

[ilbob]

Virtually no difference in every gun I’ve ever used it in. I’m starting to think people are making crap up about it tbh.

I have never shot enough in any one firearm for it to make any real difference. They seem to shoot the same though.

 

[DustyGmt]

DustyGMT: if somebody plans to shoot thousands of rounds in an AR— even Without allowing the overheating seen in the LuckyGunner evaluations—

.... it is logical to want to avoid premature bore wear caused by thousands of bimetal (inner thin steel) coatings on Modern Russian bullets.

Agreed. I spent alot of time considering the pros and cons myself. There are more pros for mine and most peoples purposes. I pretty much equate the steel vs brass to Synthetic motor oil vs Regular motor oil in terms of performance.

In financial terms I equate it to throwing money out the window vs keeping it in your pocket.

If I'm shooting a really nice match rig with SS bbl and luepold I'd go for the premium brass stuff.

For most of my AR shooting, my bang around M4gery, BCM, PSA, etc.... I'll stick with mostly steel case and bank the additional training/range fun and the $$$.

 

[Glenn Berryhill]

I got the steel case ammo at J and G Ammo. I ordered it a day or two after I started this thread. It shipped today and will be here 12/8. I didn't want to say where I got it from till I knew they were really going to ship it. Hope this helps.

The real question is where is this steel cased Grendel at?

 

[Hokkmike]

Steel ammo with cheap AK's is OK.

Usually a last resort for me. But I baby my guns.

 

[BigBlue 94]

I got the steel case ammo at J and G Ammo. I ordered it a day or two after I started this thread. It shipped today and will be here 12/8. I didn't want to say where I got it from till I knew they were really going to ship it. Hope this helps.

What is sad is my supply of brass cased hornady 6.5G was $20 a box. That is just too pricey for steel case. Unless i was low on 6.5G... 80 cents a round is still great compared to the alternative.

 

[brasscollector]

My friend ran some steel case through his grendel shortly after I sold him my upper, it was fairly accurate out of his rifle. I never knew it existed until then.

 

[k_dawg]

Try to find Golden Tiger shells.

Green laquour coating with purple and red primer and neck sealitants. They are made at a military outpost and use a boated tail bullet and they’re very accurate, considered the best x39 ammo made.

Really? Did not know that.
I've got 2k that's been ammo cans for almost 15 years ( I dont shoot my Saiga that much anymore )
They were fairly cheaper than Wolf or Silver Bear, so thought it was even lower quality/accurate ammo.

 

[jonnyc]

Over the past 3 months I've gotten about 600 rounds of Russian steel-cased .300 Blackout. Very accurate and reliable through my two BLKs (short and long). I wish they would make/import some subsonic!

 

[army_eod]

The real question is where is this steel cased Grendel at?

 

[Glenn Berryhill]

army_eod, I will give you $12/box.

 

[Sebastian the Ibis]

It works just fine for plinking.