Stopped at my LGS today, no guns to be had

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grammontS said:
We get plenty of aluminum from Canada , so I don't think that's the problem. Production can't keep up with the buying right now , that's my opinion.
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President Trump said Thursday he has re-imposed a tariff of 10 percent on some aluminum products imported from Canada, accusing the country of reneging on a promise not to “flood” the United States with its exports.
The move, which prompted Canada to pledge retaliation, reignites trade tensions with a key partner just months after the adoption of a new North American trade agreement.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/06/trump-canada-aluminum-tariffs/
 
LGS here very busy selling handguns to local females who were buying for the first time and accompanied by somewhat helpful male friends.
 
The nonsense you hear at gun stores always amazes me. We are experiencing record sales. If there were no guns being produced how would we be breaking sales records every month. The truth is stores are receiving nonstop shipments, but they are selling as fast as they arrive so there is no extra inventory sitting on the shelves.
 
Walked into a LGS yesterday and on an impulse bought a new Keltec PMR30 .22 Mag for $379 out the door.

It's only a place holder until I find an AMT Automag in .22 mag then it goes to my God Son.

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solman said:
As the title states I stopped at my LGS today looking for a new S&W 9mm EZ or maybe a Walther PPS in 9mm. They Had virtually bare shelves with just a few used handguns in stock. And he stated that nothing is available and none are being made as there are no raw materials for manufacture. He said that the aluminum all comes from China to make the small parts and none has been shipped.
Do you all agree with this?
I didn't realize that we don't really produce aluminum here in the USA . And why hasn't china shipped any by now?
I know that you can't buy a bicycle right now my friend has been looking, but they are made in China not here. None expected until the fall.
When can we get new pistols again?
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This is an example of why global economy is as great as it's made out to be.
I don't believe China is completely to blame.
People are buying guns at an insane rate. The companies weren't set up for it. So we are going to need to wait.
 
Bfh_auto said:
This is an example of why global economy is as great as it's made out to be.
I don't believe China is completely to blame.
People are buying guns at an insane rate. The companies weren't set up for it. So we are going to need to wait.
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Lol, this insane buying and Ammo shortage has nothing to do with the Chinese. Try again.
 
Ernie Bass said:
Lol, this insane buying and Ammo shortage has nothing to do with the Chinese. Try again.
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I meant global economy isn't great.
The OP referenced a supposed shortage of aluminum from China.
I said it's not all China's fault.
You basically told me I'm wrong and restated what I said without referencing the OP's statement.
 
solman said:
And he stated that nothing is available and none are being made as there are no raw materials for manufacture. He said that the aluminum all comes from China to make the small parts and none has been shipped.
Do you all agree with this?
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It has been my observation that people behind the counter at most gun stores and at gun shows are wrong about most of the things they tell you. Not sure why that is but it certainly seems to be a bit of a theme. I think many of them get their info from online gun forums.
 
bearcreek said:
It has been my observation that people behind the counter at most gun stores and at gun shows are wrong about most of the things they tell you. Not sure why that is but it certainly seems to be a bit of a theme. I think many of them get their info from online gun forums.
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I think there's a fair amount of salesmanship. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS. Very few of the gun shop employees I've encountered would ever believe a customer of all people, could be more knowledgeable than them. Most of the owners of the LGS I've dealt with around here are more concerned with taking care of their customers than trying to impress their theories on them.
 
solman said:
As the title states I stopped at my LGS today looking for a new S&W 9mm EZ or maybe a Walther PPS in 9mm. They Had virtually bare shelves with just a few used handguns in stock. And he stated that nothing is available and none are being made as there are no raw materials for manufacture. He said that the aluminum all comes from China to make the small parts and none has been shipped.
Do you all agree with this?
I didn't realize that we don't really produce aluminum here in the USA . And why hasn't china shipped any by now?
I know that you can't buy a bicycle right now my friend has been looking, but they are made in China not here. None expected until the fall.
When can we get new pistols again?
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You are a bit late to the Second Great Disappearance of guns and ammo, they have all been raptured to heaven or somewhere. It is kinda funny, I went to Cabela's today just for entertainment to watch folks circle the empty reloading counter and then go to the pistol ammo section and circle it and then finally ask the clerk where everything is and get to hear the clerk explain for the hundredth time that day that there is not any and ain't gonna be any anytime soon. And then watch the customers eyes bulge out!

Most quality bicycles today come out of Taiwan save for expensive racing bicycles which still may come from the USA and the Continent. Only BSOs sold at department stores come from China proper. Oh, a BSO is a Bicycle Shaped Object, looks similar to a bicycle but not really a durable good for serious use, but they look good in the landfill after about 100 miles of infrequent use, hardly my weekly mileage.

I hope this all gets better soon or eventually :( .
 
The record amount of guns and ammo sold in the past 5 months still exist. You might just have to buy in the secondary market for a higher price. The industry is partly to blame for the run because most refuse to raise prices out of fear of being accused of profiteering. But that just means the guns and ammo gets snatched up and then resold for a higher price by others. If wholesalers and retailers raised their prices the hoarders and scalpers wouldn't exist and stores would still have product to sell to those who are willing to pay more.
 
Funny thing is I started the buying process back in the beginning of February. I live in NJ and here we need to apply for a permit to purchase for all handgun purchases. This normally takes 6 weeks or so in my township. After waiting weeks and months to get your permit to purchase We still have to go through a NICS check at the time of the actual purchase but that absurdity is for another post. The Covid flu hit and set back all processing and I received notice of approval sometime in April or May but the administration buildings are closed to the public. Long story short I received my permits a few weeks ago and went looking for the gun I wanted in the first place. I never thought it would get this bad for pistol availability. I know ammo and reloading take a hit as well as AR rifles during these times but handguns I can't recall such scarcity.

On a different note I realize now it's time to find myself a different LGS to do business with. After the materials shortage BS yesterday and other issues the last few visits I know now that this is not the place I want to utilize any longer. It's a shame he is fairly close by and used to be very friendly and accommodating but I guess he is now suffering from success.
 
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Well folks, the apocalypse has arrived. I saw 1000 round cases of Wolf 115 grain 9mm for 50 cents a round available online this morning, and Tula 115 for SIXTY CENTS A ROUND. Literally a 400% price hike. For literally the worst ammo you can buy.

“But hey, it’s available”. ROTFL.

On the other hand, my LGS has a good inventory of new Glocks, XD’s, M9’s, and Caniks all at fair prices. They sell fast but they generally have a decent stock.
 
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Not sure why this is so hard to figure out. Retail places keep their inventory at a certain 'flow through' rate..As in, when I get down to 10 'widgets', I re-order. Distributors do the same thing...YUGE demand for guns and ammo...inventory that normally is adequate for weeks, is gone in days..PLUS, due to COVID closures, manufacturing employees getting sick, some with risk factors not wanting to be in the factory, proper social distancing, etc..throw in some raw materials problems, for the same reasons...=shortages. Demand is driving this all and the reasons for gun and ammo demand is all over the place...some make sense, some are tinfoil hat stuff, a LOT are those...
 
The staffer is either
A ignorant, or is
B: trying to Ignite continued Panic, to keep sales hot.

Much of choice B was common after O was elected in 2008. ——It worked.——
 
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