stopping ear ringing?

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Since most shooters have ringing in ears, even with ear protection sometimes a shot sneaks through. Has anyone tried some of the products like Ring Stop or others? I saw an ad on tv for a product but didnt write it down and havent seen the ad since. I am wondering if a simple pill a day will make the "the phone is ringing all day" sound go away. Shooting is just part of the ringing problem for me, it also comes from living on a farm and operating equipment since I was 12.

here is a link:

http://www.tinnitusearringing.com/alexander_technique.htm

although I am hopeful it sounds too good to be true.
 
I would also like to find something to help with the ringing in my ears. Mine was caused by radio equipment in the Army.
 
I have posted this before, or maybe on another board a long while back, but...

If you are a vet and have been in combat or trained w/ live ammo for combat, the VA is awarding and paying disability for this condition.

I havnt claimed mine yet (tanks) as I currently draw compensation for more "serious" things, but at least it will get you medical attention and treatment.
 
My wife has it, actually from going a month or so without sleep.

A lot of things have been reccomended to her- Ginko Biloba, avoid caffeine, etc.
Just having some white noise seems to be the best thing, since nothing makes it go away alltogether. One of those little fountains works, something like that.
 
If you are a vet and have been in combat or trained w/ live ammo for combat, the VA is awarding and paying disability for this condition.

I havnt claimed mine yet (tanks) as I currently draw compensation for more "serious" things, but at least it will get you medical attention and treatment
Got mine from tanks too over 30 years ago. I've just learned to live with it.

I can't imagine getting disability for it but just for the sake of argument what percent are they rating tinitis at these days?
 
I can't imagine getting disability for it but just for the sake of argument what percent are they rating tinitis at these days
Then you don't have it bad enough.
I've had some since my Army days working in tug boat engine rooms but nothing too bad.
A shooting mistake intensified it 5 years ago there have been times that I have almost shoved an icepick in my ear to make it stop.

The only thing that I have found to work is the white noise that nomadboi mentioned. If I'm at home my TV or stereo is on evn to sleep. the fountains just aren't loud enough.
 
Slightly off topic: I read somewhere that docs can now can treat non-cumulative hearing loss with steroid therapy - as long as you get started with it almost immediately after the "incident". From what I remember of the article, the treatment can keep you at 90% of original range.
 
Have many men (usually men anyway although we do get some women too ) come into our office all day long, with tinnitus.
You see we are an Ear, Nose and Throat M.D. practice.
Most tinnitus caused by noise damage, altho not always.
Usually noise exposure ie: tanks,arty, gun range, aircraft carrier, air craft, infty, jack hammers, race car drivers, rock music etc. I guess you get the picture.
MOST cases tinnitus = hearing loss in the high frequency 4,000 hz. and up.
IF you can prove loss at discharge you have a case with the VA. Most cannot prove loss was present at time of discharge.
Loss usually takes 20 or more yrs. to come back to bite you in the ass.

Get your hearing tested, and by all means try VA, but don't hold your breath.
They(the VA) know, but will not admit, there are millions of men with loss.
Because it means $$$$$ disability, and 2 hearing aids.
 
I've also had it since being a teenager [Tinnitus]. It may be a natural thing.
It does not help, being in a rock 'n roll band all these years but, during the physical at work each year, they only track a small loss each year at the dogwhistle range in the left ear [cymbals].
Our bass player and other guitar player are very hard-of-hearing for some reason.
In relation to guns, I have been meaning to do a Search here on hearing loss due to military training.
 
Got tinnitus at 8 yrs from a really bad ear infection. I discharged an AR last week with no hearing protection and it kinda set it off. I use a loud fan in the bedroom.
 
There is some medical evidence that n-acetyl cysteine ("NAC" at your local health food store) can significantly slow or halt the damage to the cochlea that occurs from loud noises, and the Marines are currently experimenting with it. Probably a web search would turn up some info. I'm not sure if it could reverse any accumulated damage, though, but you might check into it.
 
I have quite narrow ear canals, and even the slightest wax build-up will impair my hearing and can cometimes cause a very loud ringing. If I don't clean nearly every day I can get a build-up that hardens and then it's loud, loud ringing until I can get to a doc to clean it out. I know where you guys are coming from.

When I shoot, even .22s, I wear Peltor H10As or foam rubber earplugs if I don't have access to my earmuffs. I've never exposed myself to a gunshot unprotected and don't plan to. I've had a few tastes of what hearing loss/tinnitus can be like I'd really rather avoid a permanent version of it.
 
Take a quality calcium +D tablet like Oscal - 2 500s a day. You will be amazed at the results in improvement in hearing.

However if you have permanently damaged your inner ear cilia, you are pretty much screwed. But try the calcium - cheap and you probably need it anyway if you are an old guy.
 
Don't quite believe this, but heard a lecture once (back in my working days) in which the lecturer claimed that he had once treated a patient who had ear ringing so bad that it annoyed the guy sitting next to him. :D

Don't mean to make light of your condition - I have it myself. There are two types of hearing loss normally caused by exposure to loud noises - temporary threshold shift and permanent threshold shift. (Both can be accompanied by Tinnitus.) Temporary corrects itself after a few days, but permanent is just that - no correction. Both are caused by the hair cells in the inner ear becoming fatigued from the over-exposure to noise. I believe my hearing loss was caused by the shooting I did as a kid when it was not cool to use hearing protection. I'm older (much) and wiser now.

Jim
 
A cursory Pubmed search for fellow HighRoaders :D

Ginkgo biloba
Alpha-lipoic acid

references below:

Egb761 is a standardized extract of Ginkgo


1: Am J Otol. 2000 Mar;21(2):161-7. Biologic activity of mitochondrial metabolites on aging and age-related hearing
loss. Seidman MD, Khan MJ, Bai U, Shirwany N, Quirk WS.

Acetyl-L-carnitine and alpha-lipoic acid reduce age-associated deterioration in
auditory sensitivity and improve cochlear function. This effect appears to be
related to the mitochondrial metabolite ability to protect and repair
age-induced cochlear mtDNA damage, thereby upregulating mitochondrial function and improving energy-producing capabilities.

1: Am Fam Physician. 2003 Sep 1;68(5):923-6. Ginkgo biloba.
Sierpina VS, Wollschlaeger B, Blumenthal M.

Ginkgo biloba is commonly used in the treatment of early-stage Alzheimer's
disease, vascular dementia, peripheral claudication, and tinnitus of vascular
origin.

2: Pharmacopsychiatry. 2003 Jun;36 Suppl 1:S44-9.

Magnitude of effect and special approach to Ginkgo biloba extract EGb 761 in
cognitive disorders. Le Bars PL.

In the early 70's, improvements in methodical procedures of extraction and
standardization of ginkgo preparation allowed the production of a highly
concentrated and stable extract (EGb 761) (definition see editorial) by the
company Dr. Willmar Schwabe, which could be systematically tested in scientific programs. Consequently, numerous studies have been undertaken and provided replicable outcomes to demonstrate its efficacy in human population. EGb 761 is currently registered as an ethical drug in more than 50 countries around the world, and is prescribed for a range of neurological and vascular disorders including dementia, arterial occlusive disease, retinal deficit, and tinnitus.


3: Otolaryngol Clin North Am. 2003 Apr;36(2):359-81.
Alternative medications and other treatments for tinnitus: facts from fiction.
Seidman MD, Babu S.
Review Article



4: Otol Neurotol. 2003 Jul;24(4):572-5. Antioxidants in treatment of idiopathic sudden hearing loss. Joachims HZ, Segal J, Golz A, Netzer A, Goldenberg D.

OBJECTIVE: Assuming that superoxide anion radicals (O(2)-) may play a role in
damage to the inner ear, the authors investigated the possible benefit of
vitamin E as an antioxidant in the treatment of idiopathic sudden hearing loss.
RESULTS: The recovery rate, calculated as hearing gain
divided by the difference in hearing level between the affected and unaffected
ear, was better than 75% in 41 of 66 (62.12%) patients. This rate was achieved in 26 (78.78%) patients in the study group treated with vitamin E, compared with 15 (45.45%) patients in the control group. CONCLUSIONS: Patients treated with the addition of vitamin E achieved better recovery than did the control patients. Further studies should be directed toward a better understanding of the role of antioxidants in idiopathic sudden hearing loss.

7: Auris Nasus Larynx. 2002 Oct;29(4):329-33.
The role of zinc in management of tinnitus.
Yetiser S, Tosun F, Satar B, Arslanhan M, Akcam T, Ozkaptan Y.

Our study could not confirm the high incidence of hypozincemia in patients with tinnitus as reported previously. Zinc therapy for 8 weeks presented no promising effect on tinnitus in three groups of patients and the difference between the rate of improvement in severity of tinnitus after zinc intake in patients with normal and low serum zinc level was not significant. Zinc supplement provided relief of tinnitus in some of the elder people who apparently had dietary zinc deficiency.
 
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