Strippers and the fire arm idustry

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But why? What good does it really make? That's like saying " we should buy new cars that use different fuels to what we already have. It'd be a shame to see the car industry go". I mean, sure, I use a gasoline car and it'd probably be nice to have a diesel car, but it just doesn't make sense to get a diesel car.

Like @Ks5shooter said, standardizing makes sense. If I really want something new in 7.62x39, I'd probably build/buy an AR in 7.62x39 to compliment my SKS.

That being said, I do see where you're coming from,and probably wouldn't hesitate to buy a new rifle with an interesting chambering.
 
Yes, devils advocate is good. Imagine if TC would have sold 10k more of their compass and ventures? Cheap good shooters but we didn't buy them. The cost meant they needed to sell a lot. They went under and now we may never see that Brand again

Ima bout to get a new truck. I'm looking at 60k so dodge ain't gonna hurt if I wait another 10 yrs to get another.

To all you guys who just want what you got, I got it and no shade is being thrown your way I'm just trying to give you a reason to try something else. Besides it's fun and you can always sellem.
 
Wasn’t that long ago when Ruger bumped up msrp on a lot of their firearms. A bolt action American Ranch went from $440 to $640, today the same .300bo AR mag version ranch I bought for $420 NIB out the door is $660. That’s a 50% price increase in a very short time.
Even my el cheapo Rossi .22 pump I got last fall for $270 went up $50 on msrp. It’s a fun gun BUT that’s not a gun I’d consider to be in big demand.
 
txcookie said:
…just like strippers when the money stops they are gone.
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There is no extra charge to sit on sniffers row. Even if you aren’t coughing up cash, someone else is, and you are the beneficiary of their generosity.

Once you learn how to turn on the “Just don’t care” switch, it’s pretty similar to not buying guns and being comfortable with it. :)
 
Ru4real said:
There is no extra charge to sit on sniffers row. Even if you aren’t coughing up cash, someone else is, and you are the beneficiary of their generosity.

Once you learn how to turn on the “Just don’t care” switch, it’s pretty similar to not buying guns and being comfortable with it. :)
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No disrespect intended but if we all did this , there would be no one tk buy firearms from.
 
The only stripper/gun industry story I have is when a friend and I went to a local strip bar that he wanted to experience. (I'd been there once or twice before this.) we got there about 4pm, happy hour and proceeded to take advantage of that. about 5 one of the dancers comes in and plops a box on the bar, and I hear metallic clanging. I asked her what was in the box, and she replied it was her boyfriend's pistol, but he'd take it apart and couldn't get it back together in time for work. (he was a bouncer there) I offered to take a peek at it, saying I've worked on a few guns. She agreed, so I looked in the box and it was a Desert Eagle that had been field stripped for cleaning, but no sub assemblies taken down. I popped that sucker back together in about 30 seconds, and she said I drink for free that night, and could I show her boyfriend how to do that when he came in? I did, drank free for the night, and got a free lap dance from her, though the enjoyment was mitigated by the fact her boyfriend was standing by the door with a .357 Desert Eagle under his coat. :uhoh:
 
I - possibly alone - tire of seeing the wheel reinvented again and again.

As example, the .280 Remington (in some incarnations called the 7mm Remington Express), the 7mm-08, and the .284 Winchester and something else I cannot recall are ALL essentially the 7x57mm Mauser used in actions rated for higher pressure than the 1892 Mauser action. The bad news is they are are almost universally chambered in rifle with barrels having a twist rate too slow for full weight bullets.
 
Axis II said:
Guns are like strippers. They cost a lot of money and are fun a few times and then they get boring and seldom used.
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That's my problem I never get sick of throwing 20s at them and punching holes. Seriously tho, id much prefer 30 bucks of 270win to a iron made song with a a girl my daugters age dancing in me. .....


I wouldn't have felt this way just 10byrs ago lol
 
txcookie said:
We should all buy New rifles in cartridges we don't have. I'd hate to see our firearm industry's fail due to us never getting New rifles.
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If I am reading you right, you are suggesting folks buy a lot of stuff they don't necessarily need or want so as to prop up companies with untenable business models or that are seriously mismanaged. That sounds like a bad solution for everybody.

With that said, given the amazing boon amount of gun and ammo sales for the last two years, I would be hard pressed to believe these companies are in peril because we aren't buying enough. If they are, then I would suspect mismanagement on the part of the companies.

>40 million guns were purchased in 2020 (>22 million) and 2021 (>18 million).
 
I love guns but there are darn few new ones made that really excite me enough to go spend money on them. New guns tend to be ugly semi autos that are way too efficient at chewing through a whole pile of ammo and leaving me nothing but scattered brass and an empty wallet….. or they tend to be ok but way too much money for what they are.
 
Double Naught Spy said:
If I am reading you right, you are suggesting folks buy a lot of stuff they don't necessarily need or want so as to prop up companies with untenable business models or that are seriously mismanaged. That sounds like a bad solution for everybody.

With that said, given the amazing boon amount of gun and ammo sales for the last two years, I would be hard pressed to believe these companies are in peril because we aren't buying enough. If they are, then I would suspect mismanagement on the part of the companies.

>40 million guns were purchased in 2020 (>22 million) and 2021 (>18 million).
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Well I've never been the best Airmen in the flight but I do know if we don't givem money they will surely fail. So maybe Instead of dropping 900 bucks on sod for a yard we pick up a new rifle in A new cartridge and expand on what we have. I'm saying spend money and help these companies survive. Marlin, remington TC have all fallen apart if it keeps happening they might just dissappear. I say let's fund them and keepem afloat.
 
Archie said:
I - possibly alone - tire of seeing the wheel reinvented again and again.

As example, the .280 Remington (in some incarnations called the 7mm Remington Express), the 7mm-08, and the .284 Winchester and something else I cannot recall are ALL essentially the 7x57mm Mauser used in actions rated for higher pressure than the 1892 Mauser action. The bad news is they are are almost universally chambered in rifle with barrels having a twist rate too slow for full weight bullets.
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About twenty years ago, John Barsness pointed out that, realistically, gun magazines should be about the size of a postcard and sent out every couple of years.

I shudder to think of the economic disaster which would result if we stopped reinventing the wheel. :p
 
I think Marlin/Remington has much more to do with corporate bean counters, creative banking deals, and predatory acquisition than with honest lack of business or lack of profitability.

Don’t know about TC though.
 
.38 Special said:
About twenty years ago, John Barsness pointed out that, realistically, gun magazines should be about the size of a postcard and sent out every couple of years.

I shudder to think of the economic disaster which would result if we stopped reinventing the wheel. :p
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I have to agree with Mr. Barsness. I also reluctantly agree with your observation. I am not however convinced this is the best solution. Too many facets of life - I think especially, but I don't know about other parts of the world - are merely propped up by artificial means to avoid the threat of economic disaster. (The automotive industry, for instance.)

In my lifetime - not all that impressive - the U. S . has stopped making steel and tires. With little long term economic impact except on the steel and tire workers.

I have some reservations.
 
txcookie said:
Well I've never been the best Airmen in the flight but I do know if we don't givem money they will surely fail. So maybe Instead of dropping 900 bucks on sod for a yard we pick up a new rifle in A new cartridge and expand on what we have. I'm saying spend money and help these companies survive. Marlin, remington TC have all fallen apart if it keeps happening they might just dissappear. I say let's fund them and keepem afloat.
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Since you are just repeating what was said in a different way, I will as well. Maybe I do NEED $900 of sod, or AC work, or to celebrate the 25th anniversary with my wife. Buying a gun won't take care of my other problems, LOL. Why are you suggesting we buy stuff we don't want or don't need from companies that have had their 2 best years in history for the last two years? These companies should not be in financial crisis and if they are, they are terribly mismanaged, or as is possible in the case of TC, are products that people just don't seem to want.

Marlin and Remington did fall under corporate raiders, but at the same time, Remington struggled with repeated lost lawsuits from knowingly selling defective firearms which made them extremely weak and they succumbed to takeover and were liquidated. Thompson was purchased by S&W back around 2006 and now they divested themselves of it. It isn't profitable for them. There was no way to save TC unless you knew they weren't profitable for S&W and you had people start buying up TCs. Buying S&W brand products wasn't going to make TC profitable.
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2021/05/smith-wesson-will-sell-off-thompsoncenter-arms-business/

If YOU want to save a given company, you have to determine specifically which companies are in peril and have people buy what they are selling. Buying a 10mm Glock would not have saved any of the company or FK 7.5 BRN0 would not have saved Remington, not even if you would have spend $10k with those companies, LOL.
 
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