Students Find Teacher's Body At High School

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YORK COUNTY, Pa. -- A group of students found a teacher's body at West York High School this morning.

About 10 students and a substitute teacher were entering their first-period class this morning around 8:30 when they found the teacher's body lying in the back of the classroom, officials said.

Officials have not released the identity of the deceased. The teacher apparently died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. The suicide occurred sometime before school today, officials say. Officials also said the teacher left a note behind.

Coroner Barry Bloss said the shooting isn't suspicious, and a handgun was recovered.


"Our entire West York family is grieving," said West York School District Superintendent Dr. Emilie Lonardi. "I think we started out the morning in shock and disbelief. This is a very beloved teacher."

The West York School District said all students are in their respective classrooms. Some students have contacted their parents to be picked up from schools, but officials are encouraging parents to allow their children to remain at school throughout the day.

Counselors are on hand.

No other information is being released about the teacher at this point. His family has not been notified and because the death was a suicide, the coroner does not usually release details.
 
If that teacher thought things were so bad that he/she needed to end it, that's fine by me.
But why in the world do it where the kids are gonna find you? :banghead:

But I guess if that person were stable enough to make that decision, he/she wouldn't have commited the act to start with. :(
 
joebogey said:
If that teacher thought things were so bad that he/she needed to end it, that's fine by me.
But why in the world do it where the kids are gonna find you? :banghead:

But I guess if that person were stable enough to make that decision, he/she wouldn't have commited the act to start with. :(
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Depression is an ugly thing, and it will often make the sufferer think less than logically. It is possible the teacher saw the kids as a cause or source of his problems, and wanted to "pay them back". I'm not excusing his or her actions, but just offering an explaination of depression. The first thought in these situations is to blame the teacher for their selfish actions. Make no mistake, what this teacher did was utterly wrong, but unless you have stared their demons in the face, it's hard to pass judgement.
 
unless you have stared their demons in the face, it's hard to pass judgement.
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Easy for me. Suicide is wrong, but it's your own business if you don't leave a mess for someone else to clean up.

What this teacher did was an aggressive act, calculated to horrify and scar the people who he knew would find him.
 
carpettbaggerr said:
Suicide is wrong, but it's your own business if you don't leave a mess for someone else to clean up.
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Hmmm. It would be kind of hard to avoid leaving a mess. Maybe a blast furnace jump, or suicide in the deep wilderness where only scavengers are likely to find you.
In most cases, though, somebody's going to have some cleaning up to do. :barf:
 
carpettbaggerr said:
Easy for me. Suicide is wrong, but it's your own business if you don't leave a mess for someone else to clean up.

What this teacher did was an aggressive act, calculated to horrify and scar the people who he knew would find him.
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I'm glad you have all the answers, and even more glad you aren't in any position to judge me and my loved ones.
 
middy said:
In most cases, though, somebody's going to have some cleaning up to do. :barf:
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True, but I think that leaving a mess isn't whats on their mind at the moment. Personally, I would jump into a dumpster if I didn't want to leave a mess. ;)
 
if you want to die thats your right

but at least have the decency to do it in a place kids aren't gonna find you.
 
Uh, suicide is rarely a rational act, so being angry at the teacher for "doing this to the kids" is a waste of time. For all anyone knows, he could've thought that his students were the only people who cared about him, and he wanted to be found by friends and not strangers.
 
Depression

Those not troubled with depression have no idea.....those who suffer with depression and get help can tell you.....Ask me how I know!
 
I work for an apartment company & about 2 years ago we had a resident, not at the property I am at now but another, kill themselves. He blew his head off with a shot gun, but he first got into the tub & draped the shower curtain over his head & body, as to not leave a mess. We found him about 2 days later & other than a little "over spray" he contained most of the mess to the tub area (we had to replace the tub because the cleaning company couldn't get the orange stains out of it).

On the other hand my best friend killed himself by doing pretty much the same thing except it was on his bed & he left a good little mess on the wall behind him (unfortunetly I had to find him about 40 or so minutes before school our senior year).

Point is you can help to make it less messy. The man we found in the apartment was a neat-freak & didn't want things to be out of order or messed-up. In the note he also said he didn't want other people to have to "pick-up after him." If this guy did it at a school where people would find him, he wanted to make a "scene" and make a statement.

I still think its a chicken-sh** way to solve your problems. It might be an easy way out for you but it messes everything up for everyone else. I still get a little pissed when I trhink about what my friend did, not only to himself but to the rest of us left behind, trying to pick up the pieces.
 
In that situation, is it appropiate to safe and/or clear the weapon upon discovery? does the fact that it was a school ground change that?

I know that gloves and a witness or two would be advisable before touching, but is touching itself taboo?
 
The_Antibubba said:
Uh, suicide is rarely a rational act, so being angry at the teacher for "doing this to the kids" is a waste of time. For all anyone knows, he could've thought that his students were the only people who cared about him, and he wanted to be found by friends and not strangers.
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Rape and murder are rarely rational acts either. Does everyone get absolved of their actions simply because they werent rational?

This guy took a fundamentally selfish act and managed to twist it into something that was even worse, he actually managed to victimize innocent and uninvolved people in the course of killing himslelf. That makes him a scumbag on top of a suicide.

For the record, suicides often take great care in how and where they are found. This guy wanted his students to see him with his brains splattered across the floor of their classroom, thats a violent act on par with physical abuse, and people who abuse children dont get sympathy from me.
 
Krenn said:
In that situation, is it appropiate to safe and/or clear the weapon upon discovery? does the fact that it was a school ground change that?

I know that gloves and a witness or two would be advisable before touching, but is touching itself taboo?
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No, leave it lie, call the authorities and don't let any knuckleheads touch anything. If you don't touch it, they don't touch it and the dead guy doesn't touch it, it's harmless and should be left as evidence for the investigating officer. In fact, the best thing you could do would be clear the room, don't let anyone else go in and contain all the witnesses for interview.
 
c_yeager said:
Rape and murder are rarely rational acts either. Does everyone get absolved of their actions simply because they werent rational?

This guy took a fundamentally selfish act and managed to twist it into something that was even worse
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I think it's selfish to not respect someone's decision to end their own life.

Also, murder is ending someone's life against their will. Suicide is ending your life because you want to. They are not the same thing.
 
Hellenistic Riot said:
I think it's selfish to not respect someone's decision to end their own life.

Also, murder is ending someone's life against their will. Suicide is ending your life because you want to. They are not the same thing.
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Fine, end your life if you want to, but do it clean. Maybe even try to explain your thought process to your loved ones so they don't twist in the wind for years wondering what they did or didn't do to help or cause it. Otherwise your selfish need to end your own life causes emotional pain to the people who care about you.

Be respectful of others right not to have to deal with the body. Someone is going to find it. It isn't right (proper) to impose your selfish need to die on someone else's life. At least try to get out of your self-pity long enough to arrange your action so innocent bystanders or loved ones aren't forced to deal with a reeking corpse or bloody mess.

Murder is selfish because it imposes the murderer's need for convenience or gain above the right of another to live happily unimposed upon.

Suicide is selfish for the same reason.
 
I want to hear what the students thought of the teacher. If they hated him and he hated them, it's different than if they cooperated pretty well.
 
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