Stuff is coming back to the shelves!

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i think what was most encouraging was that fact that i could get a parking place and walk right up to the counter at my LGS. Their were only 20ish people in there when usually it looks closer to 300
 
reloadron,

i think most of the "young uns" don't know capitalism and how it operated "back in the day". now, it's all about sharing and equality (and government intervention).

i would feel sorry for these people, not be angry at them. they, apparently,never got to experience that particular freedom of "doing it my way".


murf
 
I'll admit to some of the 22 LR as well. For years on end I have bought bricks of 22 LR just about every time I've seen it at a decent price, or on sale, I bought it. And honestly, I don't really shoot all that much of it, I just like keeping it on hand for those days when my grand kids, friends, and family might drop in for a visit and should want to go blast some rabbits or targets. But I'll admit that recently, my Son, his wife, and I were in Wally World and they had a bunch of 22 LR. And even though they had a purchase limit, the clerk apparently wasn't aware of it, and sold us all of it. I think we ended up with like 15 bricks, each.

Today I bought all 4 of the 1 lb. H110 canisters on the shelf. I enjoy my magnum load habit and always try to maintain at least 15 or 20 lbs. on hand at all times, same for my favorite rifle powders like RL22, RL19, and such.

But primers, that has always been much like my 22 LR habit. For years on end I have bought primers on almost every LGS visit I've probably ever made. I have some that I bought 10 or 15 years ago. And it's not an intentional hording thing for me, it's a compulsive habit I have.

So for those of you that may harbor some anger toward folks like me, I'm sincerely sorry for your situation, and I hope that when inventory problems improve, you will maybe prepare for the unexpected.

GS
I also have the same guilty 22 habit! I have to drive about 15 miles to get to a walmart and half the time I go I forgot what I went for in the first place! The first stop on my rounds is the ammo desk and then I always come back to it to check out since it's close to the side door and there is less people to deal with if you go out the tire desk door! I got a bunch of federal 550 bricks that I hardly ever shoot and I also buy there 100rd 12ga packs all the time but I never seem to have a stock of that on hand! I do this with everything gun related I feel like if I go into a gun store and look around for a half hour I should buy somthing I might need just to thank the store for being there.
 
reloadron,

i think most of the "young uns" don't know capitalism and how it operated "back in the day". now, it's all about sharing and equality (and government intervention).

i would feel sorry for these people, not be angry at them. they, apparently,never got to experience that particular freedom of "doing it my way".


murf
Gosh this a horrible condition. Yikes i think you may be right. Everyone thinks they are "owed" something maybe?
 
Last night, our Wally World had 9mm, .40 and .45 acp in stock.
100 round packs of 9mm for $24.99. That's pretty good. Some basic boxes of Federal .40 for $13.99/50.
I don't shoot .45 acp so I don't know if its a good deal or not, but 100 round packs of those were $36.99 IIRC.
 
I see post after post about this collection of maggots gathering at the Wal-Marts at 6 AM to buy all the ammunition.

...

Give it a rest and please quit jumping into every ammunition thread with the same tired nonsense.

Ron
Which post is it to which you are referring? And to whom are you referring regarding jumping into ammo threads?

I did question a poster that was bragging about how he's clearing store shelves of ammo he doesn't shoot, asking him how people are supposed to prepare for that situation (which was his advice). And, as of this moment, he has yet to answer that question.

I also clarified what a free-market-economy is, and pointed out the differences between an "ammo reseller" and a legit retailer. TenDriver stated that he was losing faith in the free-market-economy, a system in which I happen to believe, and which I fully support. There was no malice or judgement in my post, just an explanation that the current situation is not a free-market-economy.

Regardless, neither of my posts warranted your caustic response. You know as well as I, that making an occasional profit on the sale of personal property isn't the same as purchasing inventory for the sole purpose of selling it at a profit. And you know that those that purchase inventory for profit are - by definition - operating a business, and should be operating by the same rules under which other businesses operate.

So, why all the venom, Ron? Too much coffee this morning?
 
I see the posts, but not the primers or 22lr ammo.

I talked to a guy at the lgs today & he said he hasn't seen any 22lr ammo since Christmas.
He gets about 1 case of 9mm & or 40 S&W about once a week.
It's all gone within about 3 hours.

I'd love to be the harbinger of good news.
But there ain't none coming from here so far.
 
So, why all the venom, Ron? Too much coffee this morning?

I liked that. Actually I like weekends because my wife grinds the beans. :)

OK, look I apologize to some extent but here is what trips my trigger. Anymore it seems any thread that has Ammo in the title will eventually draw complaints about price gougers like so many online retailers and yes Cheaper Than Dirt comes to mind. Then we have a host of complaints about those who wait in line at 6 AM at the Wal-Mart or how Wal-Mart employees stash ammo for friends and family. However, the same members who post about this stuff happening never seem to follow up with any action. Makes me wonder how much of it is true?

Case in point. In one such thread a member complained the boxes with ammo were opened before they hit the floor. They assumed, maybe correctly or maybe incorrectly that these ammo boxes were tampered with or pilfered. OK, so one morning I am at the local Gander Mountain chatting with a sales guy and three girls stocking ammo. This place opens at 9 AM and it is past 9:30 AM. The pallet comes in and I notice several boxes are opened. It's like two and a half cases of Winchester .22 LR bricks of 500 rounds. So where did the 5 other bricks go? They were factory 10 bricks to the case. So I asked out of curiosity and considering I am the only customer there it isn't like there was a mob. The fact is that they get what the warehouse sends to that particular store and that is as good as it gets. I have no reason to believe the Wal-Mart is any different. I also have no reason to disbelieve the cute girl who told me that. :)

Do I approve of price gouging or the people buying ammo just to mark the price up and resell it? Heck no, and I try to be a good little capitalist. However, complaining about the people who do this over and over again is not going to change anything. A seller will set his price and if a buyer pays that price who am I to question it? There have been countless arguments on this topic and the definitions of a free market. I am not about to get into them.

On the bright side I have also posted that I live in the Cleveland, Ohio suburbs, heck to be specific I live in Bedford Heights, Ohio and if anyone really needs a brick of .22 LR for teaching a kid or a group feel free to PM me and stop over. I'll give you a brick or at least 350 rounds. When things improve you can stop over, have a beer and repay me. That or blow me off and be like those we seem to like to despise.

So sorry if I annoyed anyone and sorry for dragging a thread off topic. In the future I'll find a bullet to bite and try to behave. I really did like the comment about the coffee, really reserved and classy.

Ron
 
Visited a small LGS in Bessemer the other day and they were full stock shelves of dies, powder, primers and bullets. Almost looked like there was no such thing as a reloading or ammo shortage. Full stock of firearms as well.

Went to a Bass Pro in Leeds today. They had smaller stocked of ammo and firearms. No powder whatsoever but plenty of primers and dies.
 
Visited a small LGS in Bessemer the other day and they were full stock shelves of dies, powder, primers and bullets. Almost looked like there was no such thing as a reloading or ammo shortage. Full stock of firearms as well.

Went to a Bass Pro in Leeds today. They had smaller stocked of ammo and firearms. No powder whatsoever but plenty of primers and dies.
I think there is a Bessemer PA?

Post like this would really help people if you posted Bessemer where and the name of the Local Gun Store? Additionally were the prices somewhat normal for the products? Personally I don't care where you live but any members local to you may be able to take advantage of well stocked shelves.

Thanks
Ron
 
After the last crisis, I implemented what I call the 'half' rule. Whatever I buy or load, I shoot half of it. I save the other half.

I was in Scheel's the other day, plenty of bullets, not much powder, plenty of small rifle primers in a white box marked '5.56'. It's getting better, but it's not back yet.
 
About the H110, our Wally World's here don't sell reloading stuff. I got that powder at Sportsman Warehouse. $23.99 each.

And as long as it is legal I will buy as much of anything I see on the shelf that I need, or want. As for myself and the two other family members that bought those bricks of 22LR, we do shoot it, just not all in one session. And as I also said, we like to have a serious stock pile so that we can share with friends and family without fear of depleting our stock in doing so. So if you were my friend, I would share with you and I definitely never re-sell any of my stuff. As for needing to explain myself, I feel no need to offer an explanation for being an American that happens to be in the right place, at the right time. Though not as severe, and certainly not politically driven, I saw something of a similar situation back in the 60's and 70's, which is when I began buying it when I saw it on the shelf. Back then sporting good stores would buy your 22 lr brass, or give you store credit for it. Nam and a shortage of brass I believe was the culprit back then.

GS
 
I was in Birmingham about 4 weeks ago, was shocked to walk into a LGS (Marks Outdoor Sports) and find PMAGs at reasonable prices ($16 and under depending on model), and some AR-15s at not-gouging prices, one for $599, one for $699. Not top of the line, stuff like DPMS, but still--it was there.

And tons of ammo except for the common handgun calibers and .223. Floor to ceiling of almost any type of rifle ammo.

Being as I'm from Wisconsin, I was lusting after all of it but didn't have much money available for it. Bought some mags and a holster, and checked it off as a place I want to visit next time I'm down there.

The sad thing (for me) was they don't have components.
 
I got out some today to visit a few LGS. All three shops had plenty SPP, LPP, and LRP in CCI, Federal, and Win for $35.95. One shop had about 8,000 SRP, and 3,000 CCI .556 (white box) primers for $49.99:eek:. Powder supply was ok, and bullet supply was ok. PMAGS, Troy Battle mags, and USGI mags can be found easily for $13.99-$19.99. Glock mags seem to be running $28.95, and easily found. Looks like .556/.223 ammo is selling for $429.99- $449.99/1k.

Most LGS around here have a decent supply of Colt, DD, and S&W AR's. One of my shooting buddies picked up a LE6920 Thursday for $1099. DD's are runnin $1399-1599. A small LGS in my home town had a case full of Glocks. Gen3's were $475-$549, and Gen4's are $549-$599 (Pre panic prices for them).

It's just nice to walk in a shop, and have something to look at besides empty shelves.
 
It looks like it. After a couple of months waiting, my LGS owner has told me that my Lee classic cast turret press has arrived. I'm looking forward to picking it up and bringing it home.
 
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