suggestions for new cleaning/lubricating products?

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doesnt lithium grease tend to harden? is there any additive to prevent that or is it best to apply it by rubbing it in and then wiping it off?.. maybe those having an issue with it hardening were applying it in globs?
 
Nothing should be applied in gobs. Too much lubricant is almost as big a problem as too little. I once attended an electric motor maintenance seminar (and received the same information from the mechanic at the motor shop I frequented) where the speaker repeatedly pointed out that too much grease or oil in the bearings always led to early motor failure. Too much lube on the moving parts of a firearm is the same, it attracts dirt, holds moisture, and allows the material encased to break down out of sight. I say use whatever you want but wipe the excess off before storing your piece.....
 
Steel Horse Rider said:
Nothing should be applied in gobs. Too much lubricant is almost as big a problem as too little. I once attended an electric motor maintenance seminar (and received the same information from the mechanic at the motor shop I frequented) where the speaker repeatedly pointed out that too much grease or oil in the bearings always led to early motor failure. Too much lube on the moving parts of a firearm is the same, it attracts dirt, holds moisture, and allows the material encased to break down out of sight. I say use whatever you want but wipe the excess off before storing your piece.....
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*When it comes to AR's, not sure how it applies to some other firearms* it is essentially impossible to over-lube the part that really requires lube (BCG). "Too much" would be very strongly preferred to too little.

Also, speaking to rifles in general, I see more problems/malfunctions from too little lube than from anything else (problems hitting the target often come from not using thread locker on optics or sights, but that isn't a malfunction per se)
 
so, if lithium grease is applied to the metal, rubbed into the pores and wiped off, then the hardening wouldnt be an issue and probably be protect longer that way.. does it still lubricate when its dry?
 
justin22885 said:
i used to use eezox 3-in-1.. i bought a lot of this stuff and im on the last half of my last container of it.. went to midway to order more and turns out its been discontinued.. i have no idea how long ago this was but now i need something else

should i go with a separate cleaner and lubricant or another CLP/3-in-1? and what are some good brands i should consider?
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You do realize you can get eezox off Ebay right?
 
i just took it as a sign to try something new.. i'm going to start experimenting with some home brew products though like ed's red and maybe come up with my own recipes to save some dough
 
There's a guy up in Alaska who apparently had a bit of 'cabin fever' and went to considerable time and expense to to a rather exhaustive test on the preservative and rust resistance abilities of a number of products.

It might be worthwhile to peruse the results.
 
Ear wax for those old high gloss stocks and stuff in Post # 21 Actually I have used oil from my ear lobe to put a micro light coating on firing pins or delicate parts.
 
Must a "lube/oil" normally have the magic word "gun" in the label to be effective?:scrutiny:

Hilco Lube (seems similar to CLP) reportedly is preferred by some military snipers.
I've used it for months along with B. Casey Gun Grease, but frankly I have no idea how Hilco Lube compares to the well-known "gun" brands of oils/preservatives.
 
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psh, gun oil.. snake oil.. spending a lot of money for common hardware store ingredients.. or am i mistaken and are guns not made of steel and/or aluminum but in fact a new special material that only gun oil can clean or lubricate?

maybe some people forget to stop and realize, sure its a gun, but its still just metal and wood (sometimes aluminum or plastic)
 
First we have the OP of this thread asking:

justin22885 said:
should i go with a separate cleaner and lubricant or another CLP/3-in-1? and what are some good brands i should consider?
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And now we have you pretty well insulting a bunch of the guys who responded to your thread:

justin22885 said:
psh, gun oil.. snake oil.. spending a lot of money for common hardware store ingredients.. or am i mistaken and are guns not made of steel and/or aluminum but in fact a new special material that only gun oil can clean or lubricate?

maybe some people forget to stop and realize, sure its a gun, but its still just metal and wood (sometimes aluminum or plastic)
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You wouldn't be trolling us now, would you?
 
Fast car....

This is what I call a fast car topic. :rolleyes:
A forum member would say: Hey, I don't know anything about cars. What's a good fast car?
Then you read it & post: hey, how about a Ford Mustang?
No.
How about a Corvette?
No. I want a fast car.
:rolleyes:

I'm done.
Seacrest Out.
 
It's probably some kid who found out what he wanted and left. My guess is he will go buy some whatever, rub off some rifling , and PO his mommy making an awful mess in the house. After a while after the cleaning gets old, he can get a can of WD 40 and wipe down his guns every so often. We too were young once.
 
justin22885 said:
i used to use eezox 3-in-1.. i bought a lot of this stuff and im on the last half of my last container of it.. went to midway to order more and turns out its been discontinued.. i have no idea how long ago this was but now i need something else

should i go with a separate cleaner and lubricant or another CLP/3-in-1? and what are some good brands i should consider?
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They reason I was told it was discontinued at Midway was , the manufacture set the price for it to be sold at and Midway was discounting it . So the manufacture stopped selling to them .

I live in VA. and I am frugal with my thermostat . I set it at 78 in the summer & 68 in the winter . Once I have changed it from one season I don't go back messing with the thermostat .

This past Aug. I bought 2 like new blackpowder rifles . I cleaned them after getting them home with eezox . My safe is full so these are stored in the room where the safe is located . I wiped them down again two months later after seeing some surface rust on my press handle that was stored in a closet in the adjacent room and I got brown residue on my cleaning rag . This has me doubting the rust protection of eezox .

I have been using eezox for over five years now . Some of my guns may stay in my safe for a year without me wiping them down . So far the guns stored in the safe have been rust free . This is my yearly time for wiping them down and haven't gotten to all of them yet .
 
So I have a story about Froglube. The dealer where I buy much of my stuff said that they have a full auto rifle, he didn't go into a description of the full auto rifle, that is, caliber, make, model, etc. Anyhow, the owner of this gun store was asked to demo this gun at a shooting range. So he cleaned and greased up this full auto with Froglube.

Now the other guy who works at this same store had always cleaned and prepped this particular gun with Break Free CLP and this guy said they never had a problem/issue when using Break Free on this full auto rifle.

Anyhow, the owner used Froglube and took the gun to the range for the demo and did not get through two full magazines before this gun started to have problems. In other words, the Froglube did not do so great with the high operating temps of a full auto rifle.

I have no reason to doubt this story, I just thought I'd share it with y'all.
 
Lycidas Janwor said:
So I have a story about Froglube. The dealer where I buy much of my stuff said that they have a full auto rifle, he didn't go into a description of the full auto rifle, that is, caliber, make, model, etc. Anyhow, the owner of this gun store was asked to demo this gun at a shooting range. So he cleaned and greased up this full auto with Froglube.

Now the other guy who works at this same store had always cleaned and prepped this particular gun with Break Free CLP and this guy said they never had a problem/issue when using Break Free on this full auto rifle.

Anyhow, the owner used Froglube and took the gun to the range for the demo and did not get through two full magazines before this gun started to have problems. In other words, the Froglube did not do so great with the high operating temps of a full auto rifle.

I have no reason to doubt this story, I just thought I'd share it with y'all.
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Less than two mags shouldn't be more, or much more, heat than tons of people build in their semi auto rifles, especially their suppressed semi auto rifles.

What problems did it have?

For both prior to the demo and the demo itself what magazines and what ammo? What gun?

We need a lot more info than you have to even attempt to place blame with anything specific.
 
Warp said:
Less than two mags shouldn't be more, or much more, heat than tons of people build in their semi auto rifles, especially their suppressed semi auto rifles.

What problems did it have?

For both prior to the demo and the demo itself what magazines and what ammo? What gun?

We need a lot more info than you have to even attempt to place blame with anything specific.
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Like I said, I didn't get into the details of the situation. I was in the shop and they had both Froglube and Break Free for sale, and so this is why the subject came up. Now, the Froglube is pretty expensive compared to the Break Free and this guy had no reason to dissuade or persuade me to buy or not buy one over the other. But for the money, he was not impressed with the Froglube, and this was his story as to why he did not trust it.
 
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