Suggestions for purchasing a 1952 870 wingmaster

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An aquaintence of mine was just given an 870 12ga by his Grandfather and he does not want it in his house. I told him I would like to buy it but have no idea what the old 870's are worth. He lives about 4 hrs from me but I trust his judgement when he says it is in real good shape. He says the only problem with the gun is there is a wood plug in it and he cant seem to remove it. It only hold three shells now. Any help in making this a fair deal for all would be greatly appreciated.
 
I tend to cringe when people sell family guns. I guess it's because I know what they're worth (priceless). I would make sure he knows what he's getting rid of, and offer him more than what you see on the auction sites.
I just bought a 1951 Wingmaster for $150 a few weeks ago. It's in decent shape, the stock had light wrist cracks and so forth...
But for me to buy a family gun, only if I knew who was selling it, and if they knew what they are parting with.
Does he have any siblings that would want it?
Maybe you could take him trap shooting, and he falls in love with it?
The wood plug is not a problem, gently pry out the retainer under the barrel cap, and the wood dowel will fly across your garage. Ask me how I know this...

Dave
 
I would ask: Does his Grandfather know he's selling it? Maybe he would want it back for another family member.

I agree that taking him out shooting is a great idea. You can always pick up an old Wingmaster for around $200. You can't always influence other people to discover great new things.

Suggest a trigger lock, gun safe or other method to keep the shotgun safe in the house.
 
One of my most prized possessions is my old 870 that was given to my father by my grandfather, then passed on to me. I am that person that they refer to on the Remington website, being the third generation carrying the same 870 Wingmaster.. Putting myself in the same situation, I agree with dpote....Make sure that there are not any other siblings that would want it. If nothing else, tell him that just because he has it in his house, he doesn't have to load it, or even buy shells for it. I would imagine that it would devastate his grandfather to know that he had sold the gun. Best of luck in your decision.

Justin
 
Thanks guys. He has no brothers or sisters but I dont know about cousins. Unfortunatly alzheimers has all but incapacitated his Grandfather. One of the reasons I was going to buy it was so he knew where it was if he wanted it in the future. He is young and married with little kids around the house. His wife is throwing a fit, not him. His father died a few years ago. I pretty much have been in his life since he was a kid. More than likely I will buy the gun and either give it to his son when he is old enough or give it back to him when the wife comes to her senses. This really isnt about money other than I know he could use the bucks. I am thinking about giving him $250 for the gun and just holding it.

Thanks Again
Scot
 
$250 is a fair price for an old shotgun. Not a great deal for him if the 870 is in wonderful shape, but not insultingly low. It is a kind offer if the gun is not exactly pristine. Seems like a good middle of the road price.

Offer him $250 with the understanding that if he ever wants it back, he just has to return your $250.

Then, do your part...take good care of his grandfather's gun.

Mike

PS the plug can be removed by unscrewing the nut on the end of the magazine tube, carefully puling out the metal insert (watch out! the spring will push it out once it gets loose), then pulling out the dowel. That's done to restrict the gun to 3 for legal hunting in some states.
 
You are a class act

Scotz said:
More than likely I will buy the gun and either give it to his son when he is old enough or give it back to him when the wife comes to her senses. This really isnt about money other than I know he could use the bucks. I am thinking about giving him $250 for the gun and just holding it.

You made my day. Your acquaintance is fortunate to have a friend like you.
 
Fair market value for an old 870 isn't going to include sentimental value. If the gun is in really good shape externally and internally (that is, almost like new) then $300 or so is a ballpark figure in this area (for a 2.75" chambered non-vent ribbed gun). The more worn it is outside, or the more rusted if it has been neglected, the less it's worth. And value tends to go down to about $100- 150 for pedestrian guns with finish damage but fully functional.

There's no need not to be fair to yourself while you are doing your friend's family a favor. Pay him what the gun is worth as a fair price on the local market. If it is to be an interest free loan over a period of years, then you do not want to cheat yourself on the collateral for the loan as well as giving away the interest.

I applaud you for your thoughts and intent, and i hope you find someone in the family with the good sense to treasure an heirloom that is handed down... literally a gift from across the years.

Note that is is no accident I use that particular phrase. Some of us here seem to be genuinely entranced by certain writers who share our own faults and foibles where fur, feathers and the smell of gunsmoke and wet dogs are concerned. One of my own favorites, literally since I was a boy, is a gentleman named Corey Ford. Many years ago he penned an article for Field and Stream, which in those days hired real gunwriters rather than fops, elitists, treehuggers or Fudds.

You can still see this article online, as it is a classic. Please go to http://www.fieldandstream.com/fieldstream/hunting/article/0,13199,394327,00.html and give this one a read. You might want to share it with your friend as well. I hope you enjoy it!

lpl/nc
 
ScotZ,

I think your current plan is exactly what I would do. Follow up with a little gun education for your friend. When you go pick it up, why not try to take him shooting if you have time?

David
 
I agree with everyones post's here. I have a 270 in my safe that my brother was hot to sell to buy something. I bought it.
When he's my age I plan on a nice birthday present for him.
 
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