Suicide at Milpitas Shooting Range

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I was working there at the time this happened but wanted to wait until it hit the news before I posted it here on THR.

Apparent suicide at Milpitas shooting range
By Sandra Gonzales
Mercury News
A 23-year-old San Jose woman shot herself in an apparent suicide at an indoor Milpitas shooting range last week -- at least the third suicide in the past decade at the range.

The woman was found about 8:30 p.m. Thursday at Target Masters, 122 Minnis Circle, with a gunshot wound from a semiautomatic 9mm handgun, Milpitas police Sgt. Armando Corpuz said.

Although the Santa Clara County Coroner's Office has yet to issue a ruling, Corpuz said that based on his interview with the coroner's office, physical evidence and witness statements, he is preliminarily considering the death a suicide.

The woman apparently had been suffering from personal problems and was accompanied by her sister and a family friend, Corpuz said.

An employee at Target Masters, who identified herself only as Susan, said the woman had bought three boxes of ammunition each containing 50 rounds and had been shooting for about 40 minutes before the incident.

Corpuz said the gun appeared to have been fired at close range and that no one was standing near her. Two other people were in the shooting area, but only the woman was firing, he said. Neither her friend nor her sister were inside the range at the time.

She died of her injuries at Regional Medical Center in San Jose.

Both Corpuz and the employee said the shooting range had followed proper protocols.

The woman apparently met the necessary legal requirements: She filled out a form that states one should not be despondent or contemplating suicide, she was at least 21 years old and she was a U.S. citizen.

The employee said Target Masters has its own policy, which it refers to as the buddy system, requiring those renting firearms to be accompanied by someone else -- the theory being that it's unlikely someone would then use the rented gun to shoot themselves.

The Target Masters employee said California law does not require a waiting period to rent a handgun.

In 1996, there were two suicides at the range, and there have been several others at local ranges during the past several years.

Picky, I know, but why would a journalist think it is okay to reference the word SOMEONE (which is singular) with the word THEMSELVES (which is plural)? Pertaining to the incident itself I have some comments that I would like to add and some feelings that I would like to share. I will do this in a subsequent post.
 
Picky, I know, but why would a journalist think it is okay to reference the word SOMEONE (which is singular) with the word THEMSELVES (which is plural)?

Lack of a good editor.
 
Sadly that happens occasionally at a gun range somewhere. A number of years ago a police officer committed suicide at the indoor range I shoot at. I don't know the reason and won't try to guess why a person commits suicide. About a dozen people I've known or worked with through the years have done the same thing in other places, mostly with guns but also two hanged themselve and one jumped from a bridge. A person can do it without a gun. With the exception of maybe the one older guy, I would have never dreamed any of them would do something like that.
 
Too bad about the girl. The form that said she was not contimplating suicide is a joke. It keeps the range out of trouble legally, but who really thinks anyone reads those or would not lie if they were considering suicide?
 
The other customer in that particular shooting bay was shooting four lanes away from her. He had come out to acquire more ammo, and upon reentering the bay he exited immediately and said, "I think someone just shot themselves." (someONE--THEMSELVES: commonly spoken, but obviously incorrect when written. Sorry, minor peeve.) A coworker of mine ran out from behind the counter and into the shooting bay, saw a young woman lying on the floor, and left to get help. I walked up--oblivious to the situation--as he was leaving the bay.

I had been scheduled to work at 9:30pm but arrived an hour early, intending to shoot. It was busy so I clocked in and began working. I was asked to do a "bay run" which involves emptying the garbage cans in each of the three shooting bays. I had finished two of the bays, walked over to the third and opened the door, when suddenly I looked up and saw a coworker standing before me saying, "Dave, don't go in there." This was the guy who had gone in and had come out to get help, having exited through a doorway adjacent to the one that I had been about to enter. Had I been there 30 seconds sooner I would have been the first one to stumble upon this girl.

I had on eyes and ears so I took off my ears and asked, "Why?"

He simply said, "You don't want to go in there."

I looked past him, toward the front counter, and saw many very serious faces looking in our general direction. They weren't looking at us but at the shooting bay itself. I was standing in the outer doorway of the bay, with the door open, so I looked into the bay through the window of the innermost bay door (each bay has an outer door, an entryway, and an inner door). I could not see anyone in there. This puzzled me because I had been wondering if perhaps there was an angry patron creating a dangerous situation in there.

Suddenly, an instructor rushed past us and into the bay. I walked around the corner to where the observation windows are and looked inside. I could see a woman's body lying prone on the floor, with her feet pointing downrange. Her face was pointing away from me. She had black hair. What I thought might be blood on the ground was actually her hair. She did have a patch of blood on the back of her left shoulder, which I could see clearly on her white shirt. I thought maybe she had fainted or had suffered a seizure, but the blood on her shoulder made me think that she had quite probably been somehow struck by a bullet, either directly or by way of a ricochet. From what I could see, nothing really made sense to me. The instructor shouted out that we needed paramedics and the cops. Asking for the cops was a good call, for at that point no one knew anything. I guess whenever firearms are involved in an injury accident it is best to inform the police. Another coworker, on the phone with 911, said that the dispatcher wanted to know the woman's injuries and condition. I entered the bay and asked the instructor. He said, "Head injury. She's bad, but she's breathing." I exited and relayed the answer to the person on the phone.

The police arrived very quickly, as we are located right behind their department. I saw my coworker standing outside looking rather distraught. As I walked outside to join him I saw cops EVERYWHERE interviewing everyone. No one was allowed to leave. Many (all?) of our customers were brought into a classroom in the back of the store to provide statements and contact information. All of the cars in the lot were matched to either customers or employees. None of the cars belonged to the unconscious girl lying in the range. The couple that had originally been there accompanying her were nowhere to be found.

I was numb that night. Part of me viewed the situation simply as an event that occurred; but beneath that "layer" of consciousness was an awareness that I was actively suppressing many feelings. I could identify many feelings, some of which were contradictory. The result was that all I could actually feel was confusion. I took the next day off work (from my "real" job--which is funny because my coworkers and I there often talk about leaving that job and getting a "real" job) because I didn't want to do what I knew I would feel compelled to do; and that is to talk to anyone and everyone about it. I needed time to just let it sink in, to think about it and allow my feelings to surface.

Don't misunderstand me; I am sad that this young woman, 23 years old, ended her life. I am resentful that she CHOSE to commit this act at a public place. Not only are her friends and family saddened as a result of her actions, but many people otherwise unacquainted with her are also effected after being unwillingly subjected to her display of utter selfishness and extreme self-indulgence. I also resent that she CHOSE to utilize a place where I, and many others, enjoy as a place of hobby, sport, and relaxation. She CHOSE to use a gun--something I have enjoyed and admired my whole life. Her actions will be used by some as further "proof" that guns kill people. I am aware that guns are used to kill. This incident is different only in that it happened where I work, while I was working, and in relatively close proximity to me. Had she been murdered by another, it would have been horrifying and shocking that someone took her life. But, in all truth, she was murdered, only she did it to herself. This was planned out. Somehow she convinced her friends to leave her there, maybe saying that she was expecting other friends to arrive.

What I've told non-shooting friends is this: Imagine a trail in a park which you walk in order to get away and relax. One day while walking this trail you look up and see that a woman hung herself from a tree alongside the trail. That is how I felt.

BTW, I feel all the normal feelings too, such as pity, sorrow, compassion for her and for her family. I just wanted to discuss some of the unusual feelings that I would not have predicted feeling.
 
the range I used to go to wouldn't rent guns to people coming in alone because they were worried about someone who didn't have a gun coming in, renting one, and shooting themselves with it
 
And TargetMasters has been one of them for a long time.

I went there about 8 months ago on an impulse.
I wanted to compare a glock to an XD9, so I thought I'd rent both and shoot for an hour.

I had been there with my own equipment just days before, and I brought my own bag with eyes/ears/targets and other misc stuff.
But given the mission, I didn't botheer to bring my own pistols.

Got turned down cold, by the very employee who had checked me in just a couple days before that.

They had rules then. They stuck by them then.
This was not a TargetMaster problem.

Fud
 
jashobeam said:
I just wanted to discuss some of the unusual feelings that I would not have predicted feeling.

While I haven't experienced what you did, there are other people that frequent this board that have. I can only hope that writing out your feelings as you have will make it a bit easier to deal with them.

Suicide is the ultimate selfish act. Under certain situations, it's understandable, but it is still selfish. Situations like the one you were forced to be involved with are bad, but there are worse, even more selfish acts people can take. "Suicide-by-cop" for example.

Be glad you were only peripherally involved. Imagine how her friends that dropped her off must feel.
 
There was a similar suicide at a range near my house a while back. I know the guy (a customer) who volunteered to go clean up after seeing it on a video monitor. He gives monkeys AIDS for a living. All true.

My conclusion? California has a 10-day waiting period. So people REALLY intent on doing themselves in ASAP just find a way that doesn't involve buying a gun. Another example of the stupidity of waiting periods (above and beyond making me wait 10 days to pick up a C&R 9mm antique when I have another one sitting at home already, if I really want to misuse a 9mm).
 
I was at Blue Ridge Arsenal in Northern Virginia a couple of years ago and this happened. Cops held everyone til the conducted a preliminary investigation and were able to satisfy them themselves it was a suicide and not murder.

Not too long, but we did have to wait there a couple of hours. Very erie event. Cop psychologist told us it happened a lot at ranges as suicidal folks don't want to make a mess for the family to clean up. Apparantly though it costs the range a bit of $$ as they need a haz mat team to clean up.

I still haven't been able to really bring myself back to Blue Ridge.
 
I was at Blue Ridge Arsenal in Northern Virginia a couple of years ago and this happened.

I remember this. A guy shot himself after his daughter was found dead with gunshot wound in the house the previous day. Police took all his guns for forensics, so he had to get a rental.
 
Oops. I didn't know they'd had one at Blue Ridge. Hell, I live a couple of miles from there.
 
As I have said before, this is probably one of the most selfish acts that a person can do. If you want to take your own life, that's your own business. Personally I think its the dumbest idea I can think of, but its still your business. However when you do something like this you create an innumerable amount of problems for a variety of people, some of them possibly life scarring. There is a place for people that do this:fire:
 
BTW, I feel all the normal feelings too, such as pity, sorrow, compassion for her and for her family. I just wanted to discuss some of the unusual feelings that I would not have predicted feeling.

What you are feeling is in no way unusual. I would suggest that you talk to someone trained in helping people deal with tramatic events. It can help you to understand why you are having the feelings that you do have, and how to best deal with what you are feeling so that you can resume your everyday life.

If you think that seeking a professional to talk to somehow makes you a wuss, it doesn't. Every Marine that comes back from a combat zone gets a psych brief that describes the most common feelings to have and the best ways to deal with those feelings. It actually helps.
 
sorry to hear what you went through, jashobeam

At Jackson Arms, you have to either have your own guns or come in with some one else.
I guess you have the same rules because you mention she was with a couple.
Are you sure it was suicide? I know it's the most likely, but I once saw some one move his shooting glasses and scratch an itch with a loaded gun!
Have they interviewed the couple?

Again, very sorry that you had to see that.
 
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There's been a number of suicides at a local range that I frequent. one was on lane 1 (way down at the end) and a fellow took himself out with a .22 to the temple. Another fellow rented a .380 semi-auto and did himself in while in the men's john (consequently, any rentals must remain in the lane while the facilities are being used). Both were late in the evening, shortly before the range was to close. The range now closes earlier in the evening. Events like this ruin the range for the rest of us trying to be a bad influence on coworkers, friends and family (that's a bad influence in a good way).
 
Jashobeam -

Let me pile on to Striker3.

You went thru a traumatic event. Get some professional help Real Soon Now. Someone who specializes in dealing with traumatic events. If you don't, it will bite you in the ass.

Earlier this year my infant son died in my arms. He was born with a serious heart defect and had open-heart surgery in his first week of life. He was doing well at home and suddenly had a cardiac arrest. I did CPR on him until the paramedics arrived. They took him to the city's best ER, five minutes from my house. He was declared dead less than an hour later.

Afterwards, I couldn't stop reliving those minutes waiting for the paramedics. I buried myself in work, trying to keep my mind busy. I couldn't watch TV without surfing the Internet or reading a book at the same time. Driving was the worst time. I finally all but rear-ended a car on the freeway because I was reliving the event.

I went to a psychologist who specializes in trauma. We worked thru it. I can remember his death without reliving it.

Don't put it off. Deal with it now.

Bill
 
jashobeam, are you going to be alright? stiker3 & badgerw said what needed to be said, plus we'll always be here for you. :)

Don't take it on alone.
 
The bullet could have passed through her head and killed an innocent bystander. Shooter negligence in one form or another keeps me from visiting public ranges.
 
...why would a journalist think it is okay to reference the word SOMEONE (which is singular) with the word THEMSELVES (which is plural)?

Very few journalists are real writers.

I used to shoot at Target Masters in Milpitas once in awhile after the National Shooting Club in Santa Clara went out of business. It was a dirty place, and altogether too many "shooters" clearly had no clue how to shoot to suit me.
 
I am sad that this young woman, 23 years old, ended her life. I am resentful that she CHOSE to commit this act at a public place. Not only are her friends and family saddened as a result of her actions, but many people otherwise unacquainted with her are also affected after being unwillingly subjected to her display of utter selfishness and extreme self-indulgence. I also resent that she CHOSE to utilize a place where I, and many others, enjoy as a place of hobby, sport, and relaxation.
Yeah, me too.

I was walking across the Golden Gate Bridge (footpath) one day when a guy looked me in the face, made sure that he had my attention and jumped off. I remember his name but won't post it here. I talked to his family the next day. I was angry at him for a long time.

BTW, I feel all the normal feelings too, such as pity, sorrow, compassion for her and for her family. I just wanted to discuss some of the unusual feelings that I would not have predicted feeling.
You've got the right answer.

Another tip: heavy exercise helps, too -- anything you like, as long as it gets your heart rate up and makes you sweat. Sooner after the event is better than later.
 
Sad

It is always very tragic when someone chooses to end his/her own life.
When I was 8 years old my father chose this very same path.Me and my 5 siblings were forever scarred to say the least,not to mention my mother who was left to pick up the pieces of a shattered life.
For anyone who has to deal with this sort of tragedy my heart goes out to them.It effects everyone including the other people who were there that didnt even know the lady.
sad indeed:(
 
i've worked some suicides where people go to a gun store. try several different guns to see which one they like best. complete all the paperwork. joke with the gun store clerk. talk about wanting to learn to shoot, etc. then go straight home and end it all. very odd indeed.
 
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