Ok i'm looking to get one of these lights for home defense, etc. I'm looking at the G2, the Z2, and the G2Z. The first is considerably less expensive, which means i could have a P61 lamp on it right away. Its also the lightest which would be a plus for carry. The others have better grips it seems, and would be easier to use with a handgun. If i went with the g2z or z2 would you suggest aluminum or nitrolon? Thanks.
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stevelyn
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If price is a consideration, go with the Nitrolon G2 or G2Z. The quality and level of light output is going to be the same between the aluminum and the Nitrolon models since they both use the same lamp assembly and batteries. The aluminum lights give you durability and can take knocks and hard use a little better than than the Nitrolon.
However for home defense use and the fact you probably won't need to use it as an impact/control weapon, the G2 will suit your purposes just fine. I also recommend as you suggested, the P-61 lamp assembly. I have one on my 6-Z. What you lose in battery life (20 minutes) you gain in blinding retina searing power.
I currently carry a 6-Z at 120 lumens and a Pelican Black Knight Series M-6 at 108 lumens.
However for home defense use and the fact you probably won't need to use it as an impact/control weapon, the G2 will suit your purposes just fine. I also recommend as you suggested, the P-61 lamp assembly. I have one on my 6-Z. What you lose in battery life (20 minutes) you gain in blinding retina searing power.
I currently carry a 6-Z at 120 lumens and a Pelican Black Knight Series M-6 at 108 lumens.
KpEng16
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I bought the G2 for myself due mainly to the fact of the money and have been very happy with it. It is my first light of this type and I was trully suprised at how it will stun someone in the dark. (I snuck up on my roommate and scared him pretty good with it.) 
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Erich
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Just get yourself into one! An essential purchase.
They came out with the cheap-0 $35 Surefires right after my wife bought me my E2e for Christmas. Man, I would have gone for the cheaper one (that's just the way I am), though I think the Executive Elite in aluminum will last me a lifetime, with pride.
Just make sure you get one - even though I have tritium sights on anything I might carry, I feel I need to see the target as well as the sights. I've used cheap flashlights, and they just do not compare - I'm telling every gun owner I know that they have to keep a Surefire (or the equivalent) with their gun.
They came out with the cheap-0 $35 Surefires right after my wife bought me my E2e for Christmas. Man, I would have gone for the cheaper one (that's just the way I am), though I think the Executive Elite in aluminum will last me a lifetime, with pride.
Just make sure you get one - even though I have tritium sights on anything I might carry, I feel I need to see the target as well as the sights. I've used cheap flashlights, and they just do not compare - I'm telling every gun owner I know that they have to keep a Surefire (or the equivalent) with their gun.
El Tejon
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Erich, come on, man. Don't you read the Internet. Everyone KNOWS that lights "give away your position" and you can use your mall ninja training to see in the dark. If that doesn't work, then don't worry because you'll only be in prison for several years for shooting the UPS man or the drunk 15 year old neighbor girl who accidently stumbled into your house.
I'm with Erich. I use the E2e. Thin enough not to interfere with mag changes, mal drills, etc. and is easier to stick in mouth.
I'm with Erich. I use the E2e. Thin enough not to interfere with mag changes, mal drills, etc. and is easier to stick in mouth.
Pheonix
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The G2 is fatter and longer than the E2e. It also lacks the clip. I carry the E2e in my front pocket and don't even realise that it is there, I have never touched a G2 without the clip and the extra size I think it would be good for a toolbox, Glove box or nightstand. JMNSHO
Too many choices!
I like the smaller one but its more expensive (same as z series) and cant go more then 60 lumens. Would you consider the g2 or z series tough to carry?
Basically i'm looking between the G2 with a P61 lamp, a G2Z, Z2, or now e2e. The first three are bigger, but can put out more light (eventually, or the G2 which would be 120 right away).
I like the smaller one but its more expensive (same as z series) and cant go more then 60 lumens. Would you consider the g2 or z series tough to carry?
Basically i'm looking between the G2 with a P61 lamp, a G2Z, Z2, or now e2e. The first three are bigger, but can put out more light (eventually, or the G2 which would be 120 right away).
stevelyn
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As with anything there are trade-offs of one model or style over another. The grip on the Z Series is designed to allow you to hold the light like a syringe in your support hand while being able to simultaneously apply pressure with the heel or palm of you hand to the tailcap switch while holding a handgun and sweeping a target. It is also known as the "Rogers Method".
I have found the benefits of this to be somewhat awkward at best and must be practiced to be effective. In my opinion it requires too many fine motor skills to be of use for a person who dosen't dedicate the time to practice with it, especially under stressful conditions. It's definitely not the method you want to use when you need to deploy the light quickly.
The Harries Method is probably more practical because you grab the light in your fist, operating the switch with your thumb and crossing your wrist under your gunhand wrist locking them together. Both methods allow you to put the light on the same parallel with your handgun covering your target.
The other trade-off for the Z-Series is the special carriers designed to accomadate the Z's dimensions. You can't carry them in a regular carrier without taking the rubber rings off or at least the large one, and Z carriers seem hard to come by.
I found while seaching for a bear a couple of nights ago in the dark they are useless when used with long arms and that for a shotgun, a Sure-Fire forearm with a pressure switch on the gun is indispensible.
FJC
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Another nice advantage to the E2e is that it has a lockout tailcap, so you can definitely lock the light off. Great when you are carrying it in a pocket or a bag, as you KNOW it won't accidently get turned on and use up the batteries (and get incredibly hot in the process).
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The A2. The E2e is too much for finding your way to the potty without waking the roommate up by lighting up the white walls...
Of the ones you listed I'd get the G2Z, are the heads compatible with the Nitrolon handgun lights?
Of the ones you listed I'd get the G2Z, are the heads compatible with the Nitrolon handgun lights?
Pheonix
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Hey Skunk we are trying to talk him out of the $30 light and into the $75 light. Now you bring up the A2? That is about $150 right?
Do you have an A2.....
Do you like it.....
I want one!
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Do you have an A2.....
Do you like it.....
I want one!
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WonderNine
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I got an E2E which I love. Gonna get a G2 as well.
10-Ring
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I have a Nitrolon that has served me well. Next time I buy, it will be of greater output & the aluminum body.
If you buy a particular Surefire only because it has a lockout switch, try this:
Turn the bezel on your light a couple turns counter-clockwise. Since the lamp is no longer making contact with the batteries, it can no longer light up, even if you bash the tailswitch with a hammer.
I've done it with the G2 I carry, and it works fine.
A little trick I learned over at candlepowerforums.com!
Turn the bezel on your light a couple turns counter-clockwise. Since the lamp is no longer making contact with the batteries, it can no longer light up, even if you bash the tailswitch with a hammer.
I've done it with the G2 I carry, and it works fine.
A little trick I learned over at candlepowerforums.com!
rebbryan
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can't you just turn one of the batteries the wrong way?
The G2 is all you need. Seriously, I sell the crap out of SureFires, and the G2 is the best one for general use. At the price, you can buy several and spread them all over the place. With a 10 year shelf life for the batteries, why not keep on in each car, closet, etc?
dance varmint
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Lanyards?
Is it possible to put a neck or wrist lanyard on the G2?
I'm giving them to my sisters. Have an E2, and a Z3 on the way.
Is it possible to put a neck or wrist lanyard on the G2?
I'm giving them to my sisters. Have an E2, and a Z3 on the way.
Bruce626
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If you want flashlight data overload just go to candlepowerforums.com
They think the G2 is fine, but really go for the expensive stuff... however, good info on which to base a decision...
... just like you'd go to bladeforums.com to learn about knives, etc.
They think the G2 is fine, but really go for the expensive stuff... however, good info on which to base a decision...
... just like you'd go to bladeforums.com to learn about knives, etc.
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