Swiss Ruben K-31 7.5mm
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Well at 250.00 you not getting a deal, BUT, they will go up in value as time passes. Best milsurp bolt action carbine/rifle out there. If the wood is good and metal is good. mech'ly sound , Id buy it. I paid 300.00 for my first one in 1998. they'll be there again im sure , soon.
$250 is a bit high. $200 is closer to the going rate.
I'm not sure what you mean by "M1" size bullets. The Swiss GP-11 load is a 174 grain bullet at 2560 fps.
Also, it's not "Swiss Ruben". It's "Schmidt-Ruben", and even that is technically incorrect- more precisely, it would be the Karabiner 31.
Great guns, though. Hands down one of if not the most accurate bolt actions out there.
I'm not sure what you mean by "M1" size bullets. The Swiss GP-11 load is a 174 grain bullet at 2560 fps.
Also, it's not "Swiss Ruben". It's "Schmidt-Ruben", and even that is technically incorrect- more precisely, it would be the Karabiner 31.
Great guns, though. Hands down one of if not the most accurate bolt actions out there.
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I think the K31 uses a .308 bullet in it's loads.
Nice rifles, you can order one online for around $200-$220, but by the time you pay s/h it will be close to $250.
go for it.
Nice rifles, you can order one online for around $200-$220, but by the time you pay s/h it will be close to $250.
go for it.
It is better to pay a premium if you get to inspect the rifle, and it is in excellent condition.
When you order, you get pot luck. I got so discouraged by the crap I received from importers, I canceled my collector's FFL.
If the rifle has a Walnut stock, it is worth a bit more. The beech stocks do not have as much figuring, or have the colors that Americans prefer. They are totally functional and fine stocks in all other regards.
The Swiss K31 will shoot GI 174 FMJ's very well. I have not tried 150 gr FMJ's, but I don't see any reason why that rifle won't shoot those very well.
You will just have to adjust the front sight for windage, and the rear for elevation, when sighting in.
When you order, you get pot luck. I got so discouraged by the crap I received from importers, I canceled my collector's FFL.
If the rifle has a Walnut stock, it is worth a bit more. The beech stocks do not have as much figuring, or have the colors that Americans prefer. They are totally functional and fine stocks in all other regards.
The Swiss K31 will shoot GI 174 FMJ's very well. I have not tried 150 gr FMJ's, but I don't see any reason why that rifle won't shoot those very well.
You will just have to adjust the front sight for windage, and the rear for elevation, when sighting in.
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When I got mine (walnut stock, handpick), they were going for $150ish. Now they're just over $200 about everywhere I see them, and in local gun shops they're closer to that $250 mark, so that isn't a bad price- not a steal, but not awful.
Mind you, that means it is about a 50% increase in price (or more) in a couple years. There aren't all that many left; the mass quantities are disappearing.
Ammo can be scarce and pricey (the GP11 ammo has about tripled in price or more in two years), but home reloading would be rather simple if you can get the brass- it does indeed use a .308 bullet, and Hornady and Prvi Partizan make factory ammo in that chambering.
Mind you, that means it is about a 50% increase in price (or more) in a couple years. There aren't all that many left; the mass quantities are disappearing.
Ammo can be scarce and pricey (the GP11 ammo has about tripled in price or more in two years), but home reloading would be rather simple if you can get the brass- it does indeed use a .308 bullet, and Hornady and Prvi Partizan make factory ammo in that chambering.
Thanks everybody. The name Swiss Ruben was written down by me from a cardboard sign the yard sale folks had outside and I just copied it. Amazing how much good info you folks have and now with that, I am heading back over tomorrow to inspect the rifle more closely and see how low I can get this for. Wouldn't even attempt this without the fine answers you all provided. Thanks again and if I get that deal, I will post it here. Thanks again.
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Not bad, they are going up and will continue to do so.
countertop
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heh
I paid about $110 - with a walnut stock. My brother was smart and bought a bunch (dozen) as an investment. But he's single and with out a wife to harass him.
I paid about $110 - with a walnut stock. My brother was smart and bought a bunch (dozen) as an investment. But he's single and with out a wife to harass him.
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I paid about $70 each for the five I got 2 years ago. Three with Walnut stocks, two with Beach. They look kind of beat up, but are mechanically solid and have mirror bores with sharp lands.
I have 4, last one was $139 with a 60rd brick of ammo. For last year, that's a good price. I'd grab the one at the yardsale too. Buy a case of ammo from Dan's ammo. People used to complain it was expensive, price stayed the same as new ammo nearly doubled. $0.46 for match grade isn't bad. I have 500 pieces of new brass. Found a 500 box of Sierra Match King 175s for last year's prices too. See, it's a disease!
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While we're on the subject, anyone know of a good source of 7.5 Swiss boxer primed brass? Are the Hornady cartridges priced comparable to the surplus GP-11 rounds? I payed $23 for 60 cartridges the last time I found them, i.e., $0.40 per shot. If I could get the Hornady for $0.50 a shot I'd get them and then reload the empty brass.
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Swiss Ruben sounds like the name of a sandwich.
FWIW, this is the cheapest K-31 I bought for $59 (shipping included) a couple of years ago as a 'cracked stock special' from an importer. Stock had a few more dings than normal, but no cracks. I've bought 6 others in the last 5 years for all around $100 ea. I'd still pay $200 for a nice one if I ever see one again for that price.
Technosavant
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The few places I've seen new brass for sale, it was about $1/case for Norma. I've also seen Hornady factory loaded ammo for the same price, so that's probably the way I'd go. I'm not sure if the ballistics are similar to GP11, but I would about expect it would be, since that's kinda the benchmark for the round. I can't prove it though.
cracked butt
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Wolf makes 7.5 Swiss also that's boxer primed.
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So does Prvi. I got 100 rounds at $11 a box last year, but at $13 a box today it's still the best way to get reloadable brass.
cracked butt
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Failing finding 7.5 brass, just used .284 winchester. I have about 400 pieces of .284 winchester stocked up and never had a problem reloding or shooting it in my K-31s.
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.284 Win brass is usually more expensive than 7.5 Swiss, but if you find some cheap it's a great option. If you're ordering new, just get the Swiss.
cracked butt
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It also looks cheap if its the only option. 7.5 boxer primed brass has only been around for a couple of years AFAIK. I held off on buying a K-31 for a few years until I heard that people were using .284 brass for reloading, in fact I started seeing .284 brass annealed and resized to 7.5 at gun shows.
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