Swords banned in crackdown on gang violence

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Australia gets even worse. This is why we must never give up in our RKBA struggles.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1061207.htm
Swords banned in crackdown on gang violence
The Victorian Government will make swords a prohibited weapon from July this year.

Those caught using, possessing or carrying a sword will face penalties up to $12,000 or six months in prison.

Special groups will be required to gain a formal exemption from the new regulation from police and vendors will now have to register those who buy swords.

Police Minister Andre Haermeyer says the ban will help police crack down on the increasing use of swords in gang violence.

"They have been issued with metal detectors and they'll be working very proactively to get these weapons off the street and to deal with those people who think they can walk around the street and arm themselves with the intention of getting into a fight," he said.
 
I wonder if the criminals will take a lesson from Japan on creative weapon making...

"No, really, this is just a farm tool!"
 
in 10 years, i envision australia lopping off the fists of its people at birth, to keep them from punching folks later...


James
 
thefitzvh,

For a while one of the state governments in Australia was kicking around the idea of licensing martial arts schools and banning the teaching of modern combatives and any form of weapons training.

I am sure it will get much worse for our friends down under from here. The upshot is we in America should get some immigrants that will vote for RKBA from Australia soon.
 
Werent swords the perferred weapon of some gangs in america in the 70's i remember hearing something like that.
 
GRRRRR apple beat me to it!!:D


Did all of there gun laws come at once or was it peace meal like ours seems to be??

How about Canada? are theres just as bad??
 
This is a damn shame. Australia is one of those cool countries, the type that you think wouldn't do stuff like this.

If things were right, most Australian states would have gun laws as or more liberal than those in, say, the state of Wyoming or Utah.

Don't get discouraged, Aussies! Things are bad, I admit, but keep up the good fight down there.
 
Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2004 11:51 AM
Subject: URGENT - SWORD BANS TO BE IMPLEMENTED!


Folks,

The news is all bad!

Note that on page 11 of today's Herald Sun (Tuesday, 9/3/04) Police
Minister Andre Haermeyer has announced that his proposed sword ban of last
year will now go ahead.

The article notes that people with a "legitimate reason" will be able to
have swords, but they must have a permit, and the swords must be kept
"under lock and key and have a burglar alarm."
This is supposedly so that
"swords do not fall into the wrong hands." Indeed, it would appear that
swords will now be treated like firearms, and a de-facto registration
system will also apply.
There is no mention as to how much this will all
cost sword owners at this stage, although an indication was given in last
year's Regulatory Impact Statement (RIS).

The Government's official media release
(http://www.dpc.vic.gov.au/4A256811001D78BF/WebWhatsNew?OpenView) notes
that the ban will become effective as of the 1st of July, 2004, and that
fines of up to $12,000 or six months in jail will apply. Swords will become
prohibited weapons, making it illegal to use, carry or possess them without
a permit.


Categories of persons and groups will be established for some exemptions to
be granted, but the storage requirements will still apply. Both individuals
and groups will be able to apply for exemptions. The definition of what a
'sword' actually is has not yet been finalised.

Police Minister Haermeyer said in his media release that last year's RIS
had provided "valuable feedback" which had been "assessed". The media
release then says "It's clear that the majority of Victorians back the push
to keep swords off the streets," implying that respondents to the RIS had
agreed with the Government's position, which we clearly know not to be the
case. The release then goes on to say "The feedback we have received from
stakeholders has been valuable ..." further cementing the implication that
stakeholders agree with what is proposed. This is disingenuous media at its
best!

The Herald Sun article also notes that the Government is also considering
banning crossbows, but that machetes will remain as Controlled Weapons.


Once again, thousands of innocent persons will now be victimised by this
new regime. The already lawless will continue to remain lawless and the
real issues that are bringing about societies slide into senseless violence
still fail to be addressed by Governments with apparently little
understanding of the issues that are affecting today's society. Indeed, if
they do understand the issues, then they are deliberately failing to both
acknowledge and address them.

The banning of swords (because of the fact that they have been around for
multitudes of centuries) highlights even more so than the banning of
firearms (a more recent invention) that it is in fact the mind of the
individual user and of the collective culture that is the real problem
rather than the 'weapon' itself. Therefore, the banning of the 'weapon'
will not solve the problem as 'weapon substitution' will be the result, as
we have already seen. One doesn't have to be too clever to figure that out
- and then machetes will have to be banned as well, along with tomahawks,
kitchen knives, etc, etc!

Here we go again!

Yours sadly,

David Barton
Electorate Officer to
Bill Sykes MP
Member for Benalla
Ph: 5762 2100 Fx: 5762 4478

:banghead: :cuss: :fire:
 
No more homicide.

In an announcement Tuesday morning, Australian Prime Minister John Howard, along with Police Minister Andre Haermeyer, declared a major victory in the war on gang crime, thought to be the underlying cause behind all homicide in Australia.

On Monday, Parliament passed a bill designed to put a permanent stop to homicide. Details of the bill including its implementation and enforcement are difficult to understand, but the main provision outlaws possession of scythes by a particularly ruthless band of criminals known as the "Grim Reapers."

After the disarmament takes effect, Australian citizens encountering such gang members, who usually wear black hooded cloaks, are advised not to take seriously anything the suspicious figures say and to call 911 if the cloaked figures continue their harassment after being asked to stop.

They Australian National Police have supported the bill, predicting a 100% drop in homicide over the next year.
 
vendors will now have to register those who buy swords.

OK, I guess the logic is --

We will register/ban/confiscate anything that can be used to hurt someone.

When that doesn't create the socialist peaceful utopia, then we go to PLAN B, as exemplified in the movie "Equilibrium". Registering/banning/confiscating evil thoughts.

And when that doesn't work, we go to PLAN C -- er, what was PLAN C again?
 
Banning firearms put a "ZIP" in their step. Now they "BAT" sword ownership. A drop in crime should be a "LEAD PIPE" cinch.
 
The egg...IF that is your real name....

I loved the movie Equalibrium....Funny isnt it that a movie of that type could be considered a "utopia" by some....:banghead:


My favorite part is:

NO!!! Not without incident!!
 
azrael

I should have used the proper term in literary criticism -- it is a "Distopia", a utopian ideal gone bad in a BIG way.

But yes, I think that many people in many parts of the world, including the U.S., would be willing to give up almost anything to be "safe", not realizing that there is no such state of being. But, to many, even the illusion of "safe" would be enough.

I follow the sage advice of the wise, and don't give out my real name on first meeting people -- who knows, they might conjure with it, and do something bad to me. (My tin foil bill is already large enough without doing silly things like that!)

:D
 
Well then you got probs bro....Tin foil doesnt WORK!!!!...you must get a mask made of leather!!!...I finally got one and it works!!!...I havent recieved any "messages" for a long time now!!

Problem is the people at the grocery store dont appreciate it the way that I do:D

now if I can just get Gunnar Hansen to autograph it I would be a happy camper:D
 
Hmmmm, leather mask, leather mask, leather mask -------- makes sense to me.

Which would be better do you think, horsehide or cowhide? Rough side in or out? Tactical black, or natural?

Maybe this is the answer to what to do with all the junk in the "Discarded Holster Box". Can I make one out of some old Galco Holsters? (I am not touching any of my Sparks or Alessi rigs!)
 
July 2010 News Paper Headline

Last nights Cricket match ended early in the evening with the arrest of both teams for posession of multiple deadly weapons. Parliament declared that the Cricket bat is a deadly weapon and for the safety of the children these dangerous weapons must be removed from the streets and parks. Said one mother of 2 who supported the passing of the legislation, "it had gotten out of hand, everytime I brought my children to the park people were carrying these weapons in plain view scared me. If they can knock a ball several hundred meters, what will they do to a child?"

Sorry folks, had to write it.

:banghead:

Tim
 
LOL tim


Egg....I would go with regular cowhide...smooth side out...for max. protection have it lined with doeskin..

NEVER butcher an Alessi!!!!

how do you conceal a sword?? I mean yea..Conner McCloud did it but thats different...he was scottish!!
 
I hope you guys like cutting your food with the edge of a fork, cause kitchen knives are next, Oh wait a minute forks are pointy too, well I hope you like eating your gruel with a spoon, but wait yoou can sharpen those.........


I know the answer, a law oulawing idiots from serving in the government.

Or you could all just take your illegal weapons and kill the first government official you see. Then start over and elect a completely new government.

Just kidding of course. You could all buy feathers and tickle them till they pee in their pants, and then they will all quit from embarrassment.:neener:
 
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