Taser X26 Rifle Mount

[Halo is for Kids]

It's good to have options, would you buy one?

http://www.taser.com/products/military/Pages/Accessories.aspx

About halfway down the page:

The X-Rail mounting system allows the attachment of the TASER X26 device to assault rifles through a Piccatinny Rail. The X-Rail was originally developed by TASER International to support the U.S. millitary efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan. The integration of the TASER X-Rail and X26 into a weapon platform allows the warfighter to make split second transitioning to the TASER option.

 

[TexasRifleman]

Oh boy! Every AR owner has something new to hang off the rails!!!

Me first !


OK, critique this for home defense. Any serious potential here?

 

[The Deer Hunter]

I have one thing to say:

Why?

 

[Deer Hunter]

So they can pull the trigger and not feel bad about it?

 

[Mot45acp]

It seems you have to point your weapon at whatever you intend to taze.

From my armchair this play seems obvious:

1. Why would you point a loaded rifle at something you would not be willing to shoot?

2. In the heat of battle would you remember which "trigger" to pull?

3. I believe it would send the wrong message to your adversary as being too soft.

Armchair HIKE!!!!

 

[cwmcgu2]

Ok just throwing this hypothetical out there. Disclaimer: I have no prior training applicable to this situation:

You are using your AR-15 or some railed gun as a home defense weapon and you round the corner and discover your threat to be:
-your drunk belligerent neighbor who just broker in because he thought it was his house/apartment.
-a young teen delinquent (think 12-15) who is not armed with a firearm.
-so on and so on....
Anyway In both these situations you have an individual who poses a threat, but I would have a serious problem pulling trigger even if a threat to bodily harm was iminent. Anyway you are armed, but physical confrontation would mean that you could be disarmed. You don't want to use lethal force, but with this attached taser you can nuetralize the threat in a non-lethal way.

Anyway would this be a valid use for such a setup? Please don't flame me, this is just a hypothetical.

 

[cwmcgu2]

Bump...
I'm eager to hear some feedback on my post above . /\

 

[Coronach]

From my armchair this play seems obvious:

1. Why would you point a loaded rifle at something you would not be willing to shoot?

For a non-LEO citizen, this is an excellent criticism. LEOs, however, often use the Taser in conjunction with lethal force backup (knife-wielding nutcase...don't have to shoot him yet, but also don't want to put the boom-gun away in favor of the zap-gun), and this allows one officer to do both. That said, I'm really not sure how advisable this is.

2. In the heat of battle would you remember which "trigger" to pull?

MAJOR criticism.

3. I believe it would send the wrong message to your adversary as being too soft.

In a self-defense scenario, probably.

It doesn't strike me as terribly useful for people not in law-enforcement situations. If you're getting out your rifle, you should probably be shooting someone, or holding them at gunpoint, not trying to Taser them, then slinging the rifle and trying to restrain them.

Mike

 

[jrfoxx]

Coronach-my thoughts exactly.Seems great for military/law enforcement and the like, but inadvisable for SD/HD, for various safety and legality reasons.

 

[Zach S]

It's good to have options, would you buy one?

Nope. Point a rifle at someone would be considered leathal force. If I were prepared to use leathal force, the use of non-leathal (or less-leathal) force woulnt even come to mind.

 

[Commander Guineapig]

just out of curiosity, what would be a good alternative to the situations
that cwmcgu2 mentioned?

You are using your AR-15 or some railed gun as a home defense weapon and you round the corner and discover your threat to be:
-your drunk belligerent neighbor who just broker in because he thought it was his house/apartment.
-a young teen delinquent (think 12-15) who is not armed with a firearm.
-so on and so on....

You wouldn't REALLY want to shoot your neighbor, especially if you knew he was wasted out of his mind and didn't know where he was.
But if he did turn violent..then what? Is there a possible 3rd option?
in either case mentioned, wouldn't lethal force be overkill, assuming they are not armed? I guess the question is, what if said intruders start acting stupid?
The drunk neighbor or the kid - Is it truly appropriate to stick a .223 round in them?
In my state, it is LEGAL. But on a more practical level, is there, or is there not a better way to rectify the situation then lethal force?

GP

 

[casio02478]

During my two deployments to Iraq, I was taught a very important lesson – that is in modern warfare one needs to use the escalation of force. In today’s war when the major action is over and the enemy melts away in to the populace, the war becomes a policing action. Just like our police walking on the streets there will be shootouts and other violent actions but one cannot just kill everything on sight and treat a town like a free-fire zone. In killing one innocent and you create 10 insurgents so any time deadly violence don’t need to be applied to solve a situation, then all the better. This just gives the soldiers one more step and one more tool on that escalation scale to solve the problem at hand. Now I am back I use the same way of thinking in everyday life. I want all the tools that are out there, understand how much force it applies to the assailant and then apply in the correct situation. Taking a human life have a finality that no man is really prepared for the first time, you live with it for the rest of your life and I rather avoid it if I have to, and this taser give you that opportunity given the right situation.

 

[silverlance]

I like this product.
There are MANY situations where one needs the backup of lethal force but have another option than to use it. For instance, let's say that I see three guys breaking into my car in my driveway. I call the cops, but they won't be here for an unknown period of time. This car is very important to me. It's my livelihood. If i dont show up for work tomorrow, Im out of a job. and i cant afford to be out of a job because i cant pay rent and will become homeless.

so I go out there with my rifle. I tell the three guys to stop, and that the police are on the way. I don't show my rifle; I keep it hidden from sight (think of being in the doorway)

one guy decides to keep advancing towards me. I tell him to stop. he keeps coming and fronting (agressive behavior).

I cannot let him close. so I level my rifle and repeat the command. he takes one step further, and is now less than 3 meters away.

at this point I cannot shoot him. I cannot slam the door shut and hope they will not steal the car. I cannot wait for the cops.

so I Taser him, while keeping my rifle leveled at the other two. when the guy on the ground struggles to get up, I detach the taser unit, leave it on "pulse", and then continue to hold the other two. seeing the first one go down, and faced by superior firepower, the other two run.

the cops show up presently and take the 1st one into custody. they likely confiscate my rifle as well, but that is acceptable.

Now, that said, I see some issues that I would like to see re: this Taser unit.

1. the unit should be fired by Button, and not by trigger. that way there is no confusion between triggers. there should be a slide safety as well. also, the unit should have a built in LED light.

2. the unit must have a "pulse" function that shocks the target every 15 seconds or so.

3. the unit must be quick-detachable.

 

[Oohrah]

What??? ya let a bad guy get close enough to use a taser
Shame on ya. No bayonet when your grenade launcher runs
dry???? What you want to use is not full proof in many conditions.
Many bad guys know about rolling when hit pulls the darts out, heavy
clothing and nut cases often walk away with the batteries drained.
Druggies also have been know to do the same. Put a 40 or 45 round
into the target if ya run dry on your AR!