Taurus 4410; 410/45LC Revolver

[22-rimfire]

I was listening to Gun Talk (T. G) on the radio yesterday and he interviewed Tom Morrison with Taurus International. He mentioned that they have a new revolver model chambered for 45LC/410ga. Checked on their web site and there are two barrel lengths offered; 2.25" and 6.5". Interesting revolver and may in fact be my first Taurus revolver purchase (for the fun of it).

http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?model=4410TrackerSS&category=Revolver

He said they should be on dealer shelves. Anyone own one? Shot one? Accuracy? Sounds like a really fun revolver. Any thoughts?

 

[MCgunner]

I saw and posted that thing up a while back wanting to know what it would be good for? I mean, just why would you want a 2.5" .410 in a revolver? I have a .410 barrel for my contender. Now, it's kinda neat in that it has a full choke that screws on and stops the charge from rotating down the rifled bore. Take the choke off for the .45. That revolver would need something like that to have any pattern past 10 feet. As it is, the contender is only good on birds or rabbits or such inside 25 yards. 25 yards is extreme range with it. Now, it's a 3" chamber, but in that gun, the free bore in front of a .45 round causes unimpressive accuracy. I could hit about 5moa with it, which isn't that bad, but most contender barrels are 1.5 moa at least. It's a cool barrel if you're out in the sticks and need to collect food anything from a grouse on the wing or a bull moose or bear. With the iron sights on it, the .45 is accurate enough to take deer to 75 yards and powerful enough to stop a black bear or in a pinch, bigger animal. The shotgun is quick and I've shot clays with it, believe it or not, and once you get into your head you're going to have to shoot quick, you can hit 'em. However, in that Taurus, the .45s would have to be kept to standard SAAMI pressures for the round. It would not be a replacement for a .44 mag. And, as mentioned, the .410 2.5 inch would be neigh on worthless.

Whatever are they thinking with that ugly duckling????? BTW I don't think it'll be ready until next year by the date on the site.

 

[22-rimfire]

No question it's ugly with that long cylinder. Morrison mentioned that it (with No. 8 shot, and the 6.5" barrel, I believe) has a 18" shot spread at 2 yds, 22" at 3 yds, and 30" at 4 yards. Thats 12 feet. I was thinking home defense or just playing around with it. I do suspect that the accuracy with the 45 will have to suffer with that long 410 shotgun cylinder. I have no interest in the short barreled version.

 

[Marshall]

I think you could do better buying shotshells for your handgun.



"You've undoubtably seen ads for handgun-caliber shotshells for
use in handguns or rifles - they are now available in .22 LR, .22 Magnum,
.38 Special/357 Mag, 9mm, .40 S&W, .44 Special/.44 Mag, .45 ACP
and .45 Colt loadings.

How well do they work?
The most-popular loading is by CCI; all its handgun shotshells
follow a general trend of the larger the caliber, the heavier the
load - and of bigger shot.

In all cases, these shells use pinhead-size shot - and not too
much of it. For instance, CCI's 9mm shotshell uses #11 shot.
Nonetheless, these shotshells work quite well for their
intended use - killing pest animals at close range. Even that 1/7
ounce of shot in the 9mm load translates into about 230 pellets
when the pellets are so small.

A test firing of the 9mm shotshell from a Browning Hi-Power
found that - as expected from a just-under-5" barrel - the pattern
spread very fast, but the large number of pellets made it dense
enough at up to seven yards that a rat or squirrel couldn't run
through it.

Downside?
These shotshells cost over 75 cents each in a
package of 10 - and their aluminum cases are not reloadable. And
don't expect them to reliably function semiauto actions, either;
sometimes they function a semi - but often they don't.
But that 75 cents is less damage than one squirrel loose in
the attic, crawlspace, or house could do in an hour - and those
kind of situations, where a regular shotgun is too clumsy, too
powerful, and too noisy is what they excel in."

Article

 

[MCgunner]

I loaded my own in .357 brass once. All you need is gas checks for wads. .357 is the only caliber I have a gas check mold and keep gas checks for. They worked, but I don't really know other than snakes what they'd be good for.

 

[22-rimfire]

I have found the traditional handgun caliber shot shells to be all but useless for anything more distant than 3 feet. Everyone has to try them and have a supply in the ammo cabinet, but they don't work well unless you are very close. Haven't tried the 44 mag versions though because I don't have a 44. I have 41 Mags.

Using No. 4 or No. 6 shot in this revovler would be pretty darn nasty on snakes. The revolver is certainly a special purpose gun and not one to choose unless you have a number of handguns. But it could be a lot of fun.

 

[IndianaDean]

I looked at one of these at the Indy 1500 with the 6 inch barrel. I don't think it's ugly at all, I think it looks pretty nice. To me it looks like a classic Firefly gun. I may get one at some point.

 

[cane]

The problem isn't the shot pattern from the .410, rather the 'pattern" (not group) from the .45. The jump from .45 cartridge to the barrel is about an inch, not conducive to accuracy.

 

[FireBreather01]

They're for sale right now on GunBroker & GunsAmerica. I don't think they look bad at all and I think they might be a heck of a lot of fun - especially for the reasonable price.

 

[R.W.Dale]

The problem isn't the shot pattern from the .410, rather the 'pattern" (not group) from the .45. The jump from .45 cartridge to the barrel is about an inch, not conducive to accuracy.

Not Neccacarly, a lot of CASS competition revolvers are throated so that the bullet is nearly halfway down the barrel before it engauges the rifiling. This allows the bullet to "square up" to the bore before getting into the rifiling aiding accuracy.