Taurus 856 - Maintenance/Assembly

[film495]

I picked up a new 856, 3" barrel UL version, 17 oz. Just to try a revolver in this size as a general purpose revolver. I went over it, and still haven't found any actual instructions on how to do what I'd consider to be pretty basic stuff, but the only other center fire revolver I own is a S&W 10-7. Similar, but obviously different and the S&W it is easy to find a team of videos of people doing this or that. I took the crane out of the Taurus, and pulled the side plate just to look inside it. I found a pin and a plunger spring and had no idea where it came out of. Eventually, I looked at the parts diagram in the manual, and it goes in the end of where the yolk slides into the frame. I also, found a very very tiny pin and spring and eventually figured out it goes under the screw that holds the yolk, as the yolk would just slide out of the frame wihtout it and I put 2 and 2 together. The side plate did not pop off as well as a S&W revolver, pretty sure it is aluminum, but the same technique I use on the S&W kind of worked - give the frame a whack does get it to pop up a little, and then you can work it off, but it isn't a smooth operation. No obvious way to disassemble the cylinder and extractor assembly to clean it and lube it.

Are there any good resources for this thing? https://www.taurususa.com/journal/cleaning-disassembly

The taurus website has nothing in their cleaning disassembly section.

I got it yesterday, and ususally before I get anything new to the range, I just do dry fire and get familiar with handling, and like to go over anything new several time and clean and service, but I'm coming up kind of empty on good printed directions or videos for the Taurus 856.

 

[chicharrones]

If Taurus makes the 856 like the 85, you can find out how to take apart the cylinder over at Taurus Armed in the Smithing forum. https://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/smithing.18/

 

[12Bravo20]

The Model 85 is the same as the Model 856 as far as the frame goes. What is different is the cylinder since the 85 is a 5 shot and the 856 is a 6 shot.

 

[film495]

If Taurus makes the 856 like the 85, you can find out how to take apart the cylinder over at Taurus Armed in the Smithing forum. https://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/smithing.18/

perfect thanks. exactly what I was looking for.

as a side note, the factory grips that came in the box, space my knuckle better off the trigger guard.

 

[Styx]

I picked up a new 856, 3" barrel UL version, 17 oz. Just to try a revolver in this size as a general purpose revolver. I went over it, and still haven't found any actual instructions on how to do what I'd consider to be pretty basic stuff, but the only other center fire revolver I own is a S&W 10-7. Similar, but obviously different and the S&W it is easy to find a team of videos of people doing this or that. I took the crane out of the Taurus, and pulled the side plate just to look inside it. I found a pin and a plunger spring and had no idea where it came out of. Eventually, I looked at the parts diagram in the manual, and it goes in the end of where the yolk slides into the frame. I also, found a very very tiny pin and spring and eventually figured out it goes under the screw that holds the yolk, as the yolk would just slide out of the frame wihtout it and I put 2 and 2 together. The side plate did not pop off as well as a S&W revolver, pretty sure it is aluminum, but the same technique I use on the S&W kind of worked - give the frame a whack does get it to pop up a little, and then you can work it off, but it isn't a smooth operation. No obvious way to disassemble the cylinder and extractor assembly to clean it and lube it.

Are there any good resources for this thing? https://www.taurususa.com/journal/cleaning-disassembly

The taurus website has nothing in their cleaning disassembly section.

I got it yesterday, and ususally before I get anything new to the range, I just do dry fire and get familiar with handling, and like to go over anything new several time and clean and service, but I'm coming up kind of empty on good printed directions or videos for the Taurus 856.

I reckon you didn't find anything from officially from Taurus because Taurus and most revolver manufacturers don't recommend that users disassemble the revolvers.

Glade you were able to find a fix. Please let us know how your first range trip went.

 

[film495]

I reckon you didn't find anything from officially from Taurus because Taurus and most revolver manufacturers don't recommend that users disassemble the revolvers.

Glade you were able to find a fix. Please let us know how your first range trip went.

collecting some different ammo to try with it then to the range. funny, I'd call what I'm doing a very basic clean and service, that I'll do to anything before I use it. I don't want to take it apart and am very highly unlikely to do so. I just want to clean out the internals after some dry firing breaking and lube it - and the extractor seems sticky and not smooth, so - I want to clean and lube it.

 

[UncleEd]

I reckon you didn't find anything from officially from Taurus because Taurus and most revolver manufacturers don't recommend that users disassemble the revolvers.

With Ruger revolvers, the company has a whole series of videos
for taking apart, reassembling them.

 

[Styx]

With Ruger revolvers, the company has a whole series of videos
for taking apart, reassembling them.

Good to know. What's weird about that is they wouldn't even send me a spare part (pivot pin) for my LCR because they claimed they had to install it themselves. I wonder if they only recommend taking apart certain revolvers?

 

[film495]

Good to know. What's weird about that is they wouldn't even send me a spare part (pivot pin) for my LCR because they claimed they had to install it themselves. I wonder if they only recommend taking apart certain revolvers?

this could also be they have a whole tracking of why that could happen and they need to inspect the whole thing, just cause of other problems with a similar symptom. did you lose the pin or was it broken?

 

[Styx]

this could also be they have a whole tracking of why that could happen and they need to inspect the whole thing, just cause of other problems with a similar symptom. did you lose the pin or was it broken?

I purchased my 357 LCR in 2012. The orginal pin was rounded like a half circle, so it extends from the frame. That causes my LCR to not 100% completely sit flush in some of my Kydex holsters. The new pin sits flush in the frame.

Nothing was wrong with the pin I had, and it's something you simple screw out with an allan wrench. I just wanted the updated version.

 

[film495]

two notes. if you just hold the firarm and shake it a bit, you can hear something ticking wrattling inside it. however the mechanism works inside, under lockup holding the trigger back, whatever that rattle part is must pull up tight. I kind of wonder what part that is. (best guess is transfer bar)

the cylinder ticks when you free spin it. like there is a wrachet/gear inside it, but it must be the spring inside the press bushings that attach the cylinder to the yolk. I took the extractor and other parts out, and it still clicks just the yolk and cylinder spinning. also, just inspecting it, if you spin it clockwise it will catch and bind eventually on whatever that clicking ticking is. it seems not to ever do this turning it counter clockwise so, I guess I just wont spin it clockwise. If whatever clicking that is - is an easy fix I might do it, but if that is a normal Taurus thing I'll just leave well enough alone.

cleaned it, lubed it, inspected it, didn't really find anything else that raised any eyebrows. timing seems nice, holds nice, double and single action, very good IMHO. sights look good to me, and honestly I didn't expect to be, but I am impressed with the sight and night sight feature.

 

[12Bravo20]

For those that have any of the Taurus small frame revolvers, the grips are interchangeable between the different models. I prefer the older wood Model 85 over the new rubber grips. I have installed the 85 wood grips on my 942 and 856.

 

[film495]

cleaned and lubed the cylinder mechanism, ejector rod, etc. much smoother no ticking. the large beveled bushing was not smooth and you could feel 0000 steel wood catch on it until it was polished a bit. no idea if that was it, but a good old clean and lube seems to have done the trick.

 

[film495]

this guy breaks some safety rules IMHO, but it is a decent example of what I think my 856 was doing. he also doesn't really check the timing or anything and says he is done, so - this video is challenged IMHO, but does a decent job out showing and outlining the problem. I fixed mine just by cleaning and lubing, but he went with new springs, whatever works. Just posting as you can see if you watch the video, the bushing that goes in the end of the extractor spring somehow wound down into the spring or got pushed past where it is supposed to snap onto the spring.

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I don't really know if those springs are supposed to spin along with the cylinder or not, one would think so, and hearing springs tick like rachets in there is a sign something is wrong, the springs are kinking and the cylinder is well on its way to binding up or the extractor just not working at all to eject cases, but - I guess it is something to keep an eye on. For what it is worth, over on the Taurus forum, the link was posted here - there is an assembly sticky thread, for an 85, and it shows a bushing on each end of the extractor spring in the pic of the Taurus 85 Cylinder, which mine does not have, nor did I find that to be the case looking at the 85 or 856 parts diagrams. It makes sense there would be a bushing, if the spring sticks or catches for whatever reason, and does not turn, the end of the extractor spring, my best yess, is it catches in the groove cut out for the alignment of the extractor star that goes up into the cylinder.

I still need to register my warranty for it, maybe I'll ask Taurus about it while I have the paperwork out. Must be common, mine did it right out of the box, some assembly gunk or whatever dried up in there and far as I can tell just needed to be cleaned. Surprised more people did not have videos of how to do this, not like it is a new model, and the 85 has been around how long?

This was pretty easy, but if I didn't stay at a holiday in last night, and didn't know how to take apart motors and snowmobiles and motcycles, and rebuild carburetors, and a few 70s pistols and revovlers it would be in transit back to Taurus. Point being, if you aren't 100% confident you can put it back together, don't take anything apart. Some of the small pieces, in any firearm, just beg to get lost - so, my advice is to just send it back to Taurus. I'm just posting this as a reference of my experience and what I did, not as instruction or as an indication you should do what I did, which you should not.