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I work at a gun shop. A customer came in the other day to return a Millenium Pro. 45 because the safety was faulty.

If you work the slide to simulate loading, then put the safety on while touching the trigger the safety doesn't prevent the gun from firing. It looks like the safety is on because it's all the way up, but it doesn't do its job. I pulled out a few more guns and they all did the same thing.

I know it sounds dumb to pull the trigger 1/16" while putting the safety on, but I thought I'd let people know since it apprears that the safety is indeed on while it's actually not.
 
A safety on my DAO PT145 is redundant. Well, considering my second generation PT145 is a DAO pistol...I never use the safety. I guess I am used to revolvers...the safety is in one's head. When I pull the PT145/revolver, I like to have the same scenario...long DAO pull. Practice...practice...practice...same draw...same motion...same results. I hate surprises.
 
I never used the safety either, but to me, that would be a problem (not that I count on mechanical safeties; it's more that I'm picky about design issues). I'm guessing, that moving the trigger that small bit moved whatever doomaflotchit engages the safety whatsis just enough to circumvent the safety. I don't have my MilPro's anymore, or I'd check.
 
I think the PT145 is DAO ONLY if you've had a misfire . .otherwise it's cocked and locked ... .at least that's the way my Mil Pro functions.

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Dave
 
Have heard similar before regarding this...

If you work the slide to simulate loading, then put the safety on while touching the trigger the safety doesn't prevent the gun from firing. It looks like the safety is on because it's all the way up, but it doesn't do its job. I pulled out a few more guns and they all did the same thing.
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Dmftoy1: You are describing the 3rd generation Taurus Millennium PT145. I have the second generation...and it is DAO. Period. I prefer the second generation to the third one myself. My two autos, the reason why I bought them, function much like my revolvers.
 
checked my 2nd generation (DAO) PT-111 Pro last night....

yup...if you engage the safety with the trigger partially pulled, the safty lever flips up (though it feels distinctly different) and the trigger sticks in place (partially pulled), and the safety is not engaged.

Am I concerned ........ No!

Why?

Because my safety is in between my ears and depends on both my strict adherance to the four rules, as well as my ability to correctly operate the pistols mechanical action.

If I pull the trigger half way, while trying to engage the safety, I've blown both rule #3 AND have incorrectly operated the action. :what:

So let's think about this.

If I can't prevent myself from putting my finger on the trigger and squeezing it when I don't intend to fire the weapon, is there really any kind of mechanical safety in the unniverse that will make me and my gun safe? Might as well remove the firing pin....that would really make the gun safe.

I'm not concerned about the safety of my PT-111 Pro, though I do appreciate this information, as I now understand the mechanical action better.

But please don't tell any lawyers about this, or they'll extort Taurus to engrave "WARNING, Do not pull trigger while engaging safety!" on top of the slide. :barf:
 
yup...if you engage the safety with the trigger partially pulled, the safty lever flips up (though it feels distinctly different) and the trigger sticks in place (partially pulled), and the safety is not engaged.
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Interesting.

I don't own one of these things, nor am I implying anybody rely on the safety rather than safe gun handling techniques. I just wanted to make people aware of the (what I consider) a design flaw.
 
I mis-understood. You're pulling the trigger part way back, then putting the safety on? Why would you do that? If I pull the door handle on my Lumina part way, and then try to unlock it, it won't unlock. Is that a design flaw, or just me not working it properly?
 
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