Wow, now we have people saying that the metallurgy in taurus handguns is poor? I personally know of only one gun that ever had a real catastrophic malfunction and it wasnt a taurus. I also have several pictures of blown up rugers and others, yet I dont feel the need to post that they are crap. I personally enjoy my taurus firearms over any other make I own. Especially my 44 mag, it is rock solid and I shoot it alot.
Taurus Raging Bull: Crap or Not?
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When they first came out, the gun store salesman handed it to me, the price looked good. Then I got to scrutinizing the way it was made and I was very unimpressed.
When I saw where it was made I just shook my head and told him sorrry, I don't need another .357 (as I already had a decent S&W 686 6" Stainless that was a tack driver with my handloads)!
I guess for the price they are fine. I think you can get a new Jennings Semi-Auto pocket pistol for about $50. For that price, throw it under the car tire if you are stuck! Unloaded, of course, then pick it up once the car is back onto pavement. Then send it in and tell them something is wrong, it doesn't shoot!
When I saw where it was made I just shook my head and told him sorrry, I don't need another .357 (as I already had a decent S&W 686 6" Stainless that was a tack driver with my handloads)!
I guess for the price they are fine. I think you can get a new Jennings Semi-Auto pocket pistol for about $50. For that price, throw it under the car tire if you are stuck! Unloaded, of course, then pick it up once the car is back onto pavement. Then send it in and tell them something is wrong, it doesn't shoot!
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Seems people with crap on just about any brand that comes up on these ying, yang BBSs anymore. 
I have been thinkin' of a .454 Raging Bull lately. I know folks that love theres and the thing is very accurate and affordable. I'd like a Freedom Arms, but I ain't Bill Gates. I don't need a .454, though, as I don't live in Alaska. We don't have many griz in south Texas, ya know. But, I've got 25 handguns, 3 of 'em fantastic Taurus revolvers, and have kinda run out of handguns I think I "need". And, yeah, I've got .357 M66 Taurus revolvers in 3" and 4" and have owned Smith and Ruger .357s. I sold the Smith and the Rugers and kept the Tauri. It's a better shooter and a stronger gun than a K frame, though the Security Six was a stronger gun as frames go. I'll never likely wear out those two 66s, though. I carry the 3" quite a bit with my M85SSUL as a back up in a pocket.
I have been thinkin' of a .454 Raging Bull lately. I know folks that love theres and the thing is very accurate and affordable. I'd like a Freedom Arms, but I ain't Bill Gates. I don't need a .454, though, as I don't live in Alaska. We don't have many griz in south Texas, ya know. But, I've got 25 handguns, 3 of 'em fantastic Taurus revolvers, and have kinda run out of handguns I think I "need". And, yeah, I've got .357 M66 Taurus revolvers in 3" and 4" and have owned Smith and Ruger .357s. I sold the Smith and the Rugers and kept the Tauri. It's a better shooter and a stronger gun than a K frame, though the Security Six was a stronger gun as frames go. I'll never likely wear out those two 66s, though. I carry the 3" quite a bit with my M85SSUL as a back up in a pocket.BADUNAME37
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Well, I take it that people tell it the way they see it.
If I had that many pistols, I would save double for the good one.MCgunner
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My vote would go to the Super Blackhawk (no crane at all) or Freedom Arms if they make one in .44 mag. Why bother, though, when you have a .454.
The Raging Bull is strong enough to handle .454 in five shot cylinders. It's plenty strong enough for the puny little .44 mag pop gun.MCgunner
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Ever notice that everyone on the net is a know-it-all, whether they've owned one or not?
You're entitled to an opinion...they're like...well, everyone has one.BADUNAME37
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Yes, and if you save some more $$$ you can have a Freedom Arms gun!
I guess if you need it now it can be a Taurus.
As for the Taurus, I just was not impressed, especially when the salesman made it a point to TELL ME IT IS A COPY OF A S&W~!
I wouldn't drive one of those fake Jaguars and I wouldn't want to buy a gun because it was supposed to look like a gun that is much better. I would rather save my money and have what I really want!
I guess if you need it now it can be a Taurus.
As for the Taurus, I just was not impressed, especially when the salesman made it a point to TELL ME IT IS A COPY OF A S&W~!
I wouldn't drive one of those fake Jaguars and I wouldn't want to buy a gun because it was supposed to look like a gun that is much better. I would rather save my money and have what I really want!
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Like your Smith? Here's how Chuck Hawks sees it. I didn't say I agreed with everything he says, but the point is made, check the revolver over thoroughly before you buy no matter who made it.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/smith-wesson_dark.htm
And, the Raging Bull is a copy of WHAT Smith?
Oh, BTW, what did Smith and Wesson copy when they came up with the "Governor"?
http://www.chuckhawks.com/smith-wesson_dark.htm
And, the Raging Bull is a copy of WHAT Smith?
Oh, BTW, what did Smith and Wesson copy when they came up with the "Governor"?
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Yup, even after that, I still like my THREE Smiths!
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I like my M10, too, but I also like my M66 Tauri and my M85SSUL gets carried a LOT.
You'll also notice in that article that Hawks talks about Smith's ripping off Glock. Hell, Ruger does it, too, the LCP not exactly being dis-similar in concept or function to the Kel Tec P3AT and now SMITH has a baby .380. Don't tell ME about copy!
You'll also notice in that article that Hawks talks about Smith's ripping off Glock. Hell, Ruger does it, too, the LCP not exactly being dis-similar in concept or function to the Kel Tec P3AT and now SMITH has a baby .380.
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I'm not telling you anything, I was telling what the gun salesman had to say about the new Taurus that was in my hand. I'm not the one who came up with one company copying another, it was told to me apparently as some kind of selling point, but that flopped.
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Notice that those who have no real experience with the Judge focus on what is not true.
I have owned several Tauri, and never had a single issue with my examples; however...... just recommended a Taurus to friend on a limited budget and it came broke from the factory. It was not a revolver, but needless to say it would not fire in single action. You actually had to de-cock the gun to get the hammer to fall. I felt real bad. I even stated to him before he ordered it that the odds of him getting a bad gun were minimal.... go figure. To the credit of Taurus, they shipped it back on their dime.
I always like to keep my new guns rather than mail them off for repair. I was not impressed
I always like to keep my new guns rather than mail them off for repair. I was not impressed
I can't comment on all Taurus guns, but the Poly Public Defender I got today was perfect from the factory. Tight fit, perfect timing, no issues and it shoots well to boot. Likewise, my buddy got beautiful Taurus 1911 style piece and it looked and shot great, near perfect balance too. So, in my limited experience with ACTUAL Taurus guns on the range...not crap.
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The wife has had her 3" cylinder Judge a bit over a year. All I can say she has shot it enough to the point, that I am tired of loading for it since she stopped reloading. Never a problem with it.
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As opinions are, here is mine. If our looking for a good carrying, sweet pointing, all around 44 magnum, it's hard to beat the standard Ruger Redhawk. They are very well balanced, to me anyway, and you can change out the sights if you want.
As for the Tarus, all I have one in is a 454 RB with the 8 3/8" barrel. I have run it up to top end loads, but much prefer to shoot the middle ground stuff. After 4 years of pounding away with it I have not found much if anything to complain about other than I would like to be able to change out the sights if I wanted. I do admit the RB is a load to tote after an hour or so, but when I pull down on a hog with it out to 100yds I know for a fact it is going to get meat.
Having others pick your firearm is like having them decide which type of underware you should wear. In the end it will come down to which one fits you the best, and how comfortable you are wearing it.
As for the Tarus, all I have one in is a 454 RB with the 8 3/8" barrel. I have run it up to top end loads, but much prefer to shoot the middle ground stuff. After 4 years of pounding away with it I have not found much if anything to complain about other than I would like to be able to change out the sights if I wanted. I do admit the RB is a load to tote after an hour or so, but when I pull down on a hog with it out to 100yds I know for a fact it is going to get meat.
Having others pick your firearm is like having them decide which type of underware you should wear. In the end it will come down to which one fits you the best, and how comfortable you are wearing it.
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Since you asked, I wouldn't spend my money on a Taurus revolver. (Yes, I did in the past, that's why)
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That was a rhetorical question, right?
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Shmacky,
Opinion: Methinks the Taurus Raging Judge Magnum is fairly silly. However, I also thought that about the Judge (still do), so take it with a grain of salt. If it's what you are looking for and fits you well then by all means purchase it.
Opinion: Methinks the Taurus Raging Judge Magnum is fairly silly. However, I also thought that about the Judge (still do), so take it with a grain of salt. If it's what you are looking for and fits you well then by all means purchase it.
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Well, it ain't silly as a hunting handgun, like, for hogs, not that a .454 is necessary and it's a might big and beefy in .44 mag. I sorta prefer my .45 Colt Blackhawk, but I ain't gonna say the RB is "silly" nor the X frame Smith. Some folks even have a "need" for one. Now, OTOH, the Judge and Governor...... But, hey, if YOU think they're fun, what's "need" got to do with it? /tinaturner
But, hey, if YOU think they're fun, what's "need" got to do with it? /tinaturnerTaurus_9mm
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The Raging Bulls are extremely rugged and sturdy revolvers. I owned one in 500 Magnum but ended up selling it to a guy who had been wanting one for awhile and searched without success. While it was in my possession however (I was the original owner) it locked up tight, had no timing issues and was accurate with the fodder I that was used in it. The other non-Raging Taurus revolvers I've owned, past and present, have all been reliable as well.
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Knowing the range of knowledge and experience that most counter help in gun stores of today possesses, I'd be hesitant to accept the opinion that anything was a copy of Smith & Wesson
Then again, what gun hasn't been a "copy" of the features present on several others? Even the new Rhino is a "copy" of a Mateba.
Certain features are required, and they all look much the same. How different are the clones of the Colt 1911, or bolt-actions like the Mauser?
Then again, what gun hasn't been a "copy" of the features present on several others? Even the new Rhino is a "copy" of a Mateba.
Certain features are required, and they all look much the same. How different are the clones of the Colt 1911, or bolt-actions like the Mauser?
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Yeah, the Mauser 98 has to be the most cloned action on God's green earth.
One thing I sorta prefer a Redhawk over the RB for is that dual latch thing the Taurus has for opening. The Redhawk just has one latch in the Ruger tradition, push to open. But, then again, I prefer my Blackhawks and they're a bigger pain to reload than either DA. LOL
One thing I sorta prefer a Redhawk over the RB for is that dual latch thing the Taurus has for opening. The Redhawk just has one latch in the Ruger tradition, push to open. But, then again, I prefer my Blackhawks and they're a bigger pain to reload than either DA. LOL
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I have a Taurus Raging bull in 454 , 8 inch, scoped, and never been a problem especially for such a powerful handgun. I think its their best gun.
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Having fixed a fair number of both, I can say with first-hand knowledge that the early Taurus guns were an almost exact copy of their S&W couterparts. Taurus changed some parts and redesigned a few things, but the Taurus M66 is an almost identical clone of the S&W Mod66 for example. Not exact by a long stretch, and parts don't necessarly interchange however.
On the topic of Tauri in general, as has been said, it's a crap shoot. Some of their guns are well-made and will give years of good service, while others come from the factory broke, or will break soon after. Yes, any manufacturer can and will send a lemon out the door, but Taurus sends out more proportionally, in my experience, than other well known makers.
Just one gunsmiths opinion.
On the topic of Tauri in general, as has been said, it's a crap shoot. Some of their guns are well-made and will give years of good service, while others come from the factory broke, or will break soon after. Yes, any manufacturer can and will send a lemon out the door, but Taurus sends out more proportionally, in my experience, than other well known makers.
Just one gunsmiths opinion.
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