looks like a thug pimped out glock on steriods.what a joke
MCgunner said:You might feel safe with the Glock, but I don't. Not thank ya, glad there are other choices. I like revolvers and revolver like triggers. I can shoot 'em fine, no problem. It does take a little effort to learn to shoot a DA, I reckon, but it's worth the effort to me.
doublebarrel said:Thanks for explaining that. I haven't handled one of those PRO yet(nor seen one), from what you described, it sounded awful alot like Walther's P99, the DA version, what they now call AS, or Anti-Stress. On a P99, if the striker is cocked by slide on the first shot, the trigger doesn't move from DA to SA position. Instead it stays at the same spot. Pulling the trigger will experience a long movement with zero resisitence, until it moves to the SA position, where it clicks in and stays there. Pulling from that point on will give you the SA weight. Walther thinks that people all have knee jerk trigger fingers, and by adding some zero weight long dead travel to the SA first shot, it'll be safer. In the following SA shots the trigger will stay at the SA starting point, gives you short pulls, until you decock the gun...
To wally: Yeah, I've seen the DEA agent "This is a Glock 40, and I'm the only one in this room trained to handle a Glock" video, many times. No, I don't appreciate an external safety because Glock is neither a DA nor an SA, in my book. I was saying on a REAL, TRUE DAO pistol, with a 30-lb trigger and a half-foot travel(like a Ruger), a safety is not needed, just like on a revolver. Glock is not like a revolver. One can make it more like a revolver by installing NY springs and/or heavier connectors. But that's kinda against the purpose of a Glock. They're designed to feel alot like SA when shooting, but work half way like a DA so you'd feel safe without a manual safety(the three safeties Gaston said he put in his Glocks, including the little tab in the trigger, while useful, don't count)...
uh, yeah, pretty much. I suggest you get a "d" or competition hammer spring, the trigger pull can get much better (go to Beretta Forum and search for trigger job and polishing instructions). I'd also like to point out the model Beretta model 90TWO will be available in "G" type.doublebarrel said:IF you intended to carry cocked-and-locked, then it's useful. For me, that 15-lb Beretta DA trigger is good enough in place of a manual safety, but Taurus doesn't offer the PT-92, or ANY of their pistols, in decock only configuration. Beretta doesn't sell their G version of the 92FS in the US(except those way overpriced 92G-SD, and Elite so and so), but at least Beretta HAS a decock only model. They just sell them to the French people, as if the French got better gun training than us that they can live with a gun that's manual safety-less...
Grayrider said:I got it to the range and it ran great. Neat pistol really. The 40 is mild in it, and the gun points well. It ran a box with no problems. Unfortunately I took my new stainless CZ-75 along as well. That pistol is a work of art. I was left thinking "why did I buy the 24/7 again?" So the Taurus will be for sale. I keep doing this. I want to like polymer guns, but I just cannot get over my love of a fine 1911 or a CZ. I am going to quit buying anything else. I just end up losing my money when I sell the other guns a few months (or in this case days) later.
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