Terminology question: non-pistol-grip stock

[bobmcd]

Is there is a standard name for the "old school" stock on long guns, like the stock on a Garand? It's obvious what a pistol-grip stock is, but what do you call a non-pistol-grip stock? (Other than "non-pistol-grip stock", of course.)

 

[Skribs]

I've seen "straight stock" a lot. But you're right. In firearms there's a lot of names for newer styles, but no descriptive name for the older style. For example, unless you mention "bullpup" nobody knows what you're referring to by "conventional".

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

It's obvious what a pistol-grip stock is, but what do you call a non-pistol-grip stock?

It's not quite that obvious.

These are called pistol grip stocks as well:
http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?fid=008B&cid=013&tid=485
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/xlr/308MXLR.asp

And these are straight stocks:
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/1894Centerfire/1894.asp
http://www.hollandandholland.com/gun_single.php?i=209&l=new_york&v=new&c=

(Some folks call them English style when on shotguns.)

 

[MachIVshooter]

^^^^^^^^^^

This.

Most rifles and shotguns today have pistol grip stocks. Side by side and lever action guns are about the only ones that still frequently come with straight stocks.

 

[RedAlert]

I wonder at the concern a "pistol grip" provides on a long gun. Are the folks writing the restrictions looking at an AR-15 as the style of Pistol Grip they want on their Top 10 most despised gun features?
Does their concern arise from the ability to do a Hollywood one handed spray of ammo?
Hopefully, when the dust settles there are photos used to describe features as words often aren't up to the task.

 

[MachIVshooter]

I wonder at the concern a "pistol grip" provides on a long gun. Are the folks writing the restrictions looking at an AR-15 as the style of Pistol Grip they want on their Top 10 most despised gun features?

Typically, yes; They see a protruding pistol grip as the primary evil feature.

 

[Gtinnel]

I may be wrong but I've always heard the "old school" stocks called Monte Carlo stocks.

 

[MachIVshooter]

I may be wrong but I've always heard the "old school" stocks called Monte Carlo stocks.

Monte Carlo refers to the definitively raised cheek rest, most notorious on the Remington 700 BDL.

 

[John828]

The "Monte Carlo" refers to the rise on the comb of the butt stock that allows for better eye alignment with optics.

 

[John828]

Mach beat me too it, but, yes, the monte carlo compensates for the large typical "drop at heel" on most traditional European stocks. Many American stocks have much less drop at comb and don't need the raised part.

I think when politicians are defining the characteristics, they do not have in mind the traditional pistol grip on most wood stocks. They are referring to the "true" grip that is found on most modern military arms.