The 28 gauge -- An addiction deepens

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PJR

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I've always been a believer in the 28 gauge. Light recoil and hits out of its weight on targets. I've owned three 28s and my current one is a quality o/u from the same maker as my 12 gauge target gun.

The downside of the 28 is the cost and availability of ammo. My lowest price option is Challenger however their sporting load is fast at 1,350fps and a little stiff on the shoulder, meanwhile the more sedate factory options are around 50 per cent more expensive than premium factory 12 gauge. :eek:

Reloading was always in option but I felt I wasn't shooting 28 often enough to justify the investment. But as things happen the 28 gauge addiction dug deeper and I was shooting it more often much to my continued delight. It was only a matter of time until I started rolling my own.

A local dealer mentioned in passing he'd taken a 28 gauge loader on trade but that it was missing a few parts. What he showed me an older MEC 600 Jr. in excellent condition and quoted a price that represented about half the cost of a flat of factory shells. I snapped the deal up because, as good fortune would have it, I had exactly the same model 600 in 12 gauge gathering dust at home and the missing parts were interchangeable.

All that was left to buy was powder, wads and a new bushing. After a few minutes cannibalizing my old loader and an adjustment here and there, I was in business. Although I'd started loading on a MEC 600 a couple of decades ago I'd long since switched to a MEC 9000 for 12 gauge. Old muscle memories returned and once I got the rhythm back a new box of shells was being produced every 10-12 minutes. Not lightning speed to be sure but certainly good enough and I will have saved the cost of the loader and accessories when I complete my second flat of shells.:)

I suspect that when we are serious about score I'll reach for my 12 but for sheer shooting delight nothing beats the 28 gauge. And while I doubt I will be saving any money I will most definitely be shooting it more.

Of course the temptation is to search for a 28 gauge Wingmaster or, if the clay gods are smiling upon me, a mint-condition 28 gauge Wingmaster skeet.;)

Paul
 
28 gauge is God's gift to shotgunners. Love mine to death. Just wish that I could shoot it more often.
 
The 600 Jr. has no sizer, right? Does it have a primer-puncher-outer?

How do unsized hulls work for you? Or do you size them separately?
 
28 gauge 1100

I shot a friend's 28 gauge 1100 last weekend and it was a great gun. It had been in the cabinet for a while and needed some cleaning - but it shot great.

I'd love to get my hands on one, but I have been told that a 28 gauge 1100 are hard to come by.

I'll get some pictures the next time we go out and shoot.
 
The first station on the 600 is the sizer/decapper, ArmedBear.

I have a lot more trouble with the crimps on the 28 ga than I do on 12 ga with a single stage Pacific. I suppose it is the six point crimp.
 
Larry's right on the 600. The first station is the sizing die. I'm not a fanatic about sizing shotshells if I'm shooting them in an o/u. I've found that it's usually not necessary.

I'm loading Federal GM hulls and after fiddling with the die I'm getting crimps to match the factory loads. Full pattern and range testing takes place on the weekend.

While I've loaded a mountain of 12 gauge, the 28 is new territory. I'm using Federal GM hulls, Federal factory wads and Unique powder. My wad pressure is 50lbs. Anyone have any thoughts on that loading? I'm wondering whether with the slower powder I should increase the wad pressure. I'm also using #8 shot because that's what I have but the thought occurs that #8.5 might be a good choice.

Paul
 
PJR - We've both posted before about how sporting clays warps the monetary senses. I think that idea works both ways. I have a pretty good idea what your 28ga guns cost, and even the price of a dedicated 28ga 9000G wouldn't be a significant fraction... yet you got a used 600 Jr and had to cannibalize parts to make it work.

I've got a gun on order that makes me nauseated every time I think of the cost, but whenever I finish a reloading session, I'll spend 10 minutes chasing down every piece of spilled shot and making sure it gets back into the container.

:rolleyes: :)
 
TR, so true about costs and you are correct about the 9000 versus the cost of the gun. In many respects though I'm mirroring my first steps into reloading. Start with a single stage and move to a progressive if the trend continues. The advantage is my old 12 gauge 600 was broken and out of commission but the revitalized 28 loader will be a snap to sell should I decide to step up.

As for being nauseated about the cost I've been there but only before I paid the money. When I took the plunge into a high grade 12 gauge target gun my stomach was turning summersaults when I wrote the check even though I could afford it. In hindsight it was a decision I've not regretted. I love the gun as much today as when I bought it. So much so that I cleared out half a dozen pretty decent guns that I'd acquired over the years (including 2 of my 28s) and the proceeds went a 28 gauge version of my 12.

I don't have many shotguns but I'd rather shoot a couple of very good ones than have a bunch of mid-grade guns gathering dust in the safe.

But there will always be room for an 870 or two.;)
 
600 Jr. Mark 5

http://www.mecreloaders.com/ProductLine/600JrMark5.asp

Parts List for 28 gauges confirms this uses the Resizer Ring.
#846528

http://www.mecreloaders.com/Order/600JrMark5PartsList.asp

Although I used 9000s all My serious competition loads were reloaded on Single Stage MECS.

I prefer the Re-sizer Ring over the collett .


Slugs from the 28 ga are simply remarkable!

One of the easiest slugs – come from a kit by
Ballistic Product.

http://shop2.mailordercentral.com/bpicart/prodinfo.asp?number=0721628


kudu and others can add other Slugs with component for the 28 ga.


For the non-28 ga folks, do not laugh, Paul is so correct about the 28 ga.
Additionally
Those slugs are equivalent to .54 calibers, proven in history, in war, and taking game.
The .54 is still taking game.
The simple slug from a kit will go thru a windshield, and the side door of a vehicle.
 
Thanks, Paul, I love happy endings.

I see the 28 as a poor choice for a GP shotgun and an excellent choice for a specialized small bird, small shot, moderate range tool. Not to mention fun on ranges and parcours.

And while I see no great reason for moi to get a 28, let me run across a nice WM in 28 gauge and watch how fast my plastic starts smoking....
 
Larry, I will not be in Tulsa then. Dunno whether to cry or laugh.

Will be in NM May, meeting friends. See ya....
 
lalalalalala, I can't hear you (covering ears). ;)

After shooting one of these little things, I've been coveting one for a long time. I'm trying to resist......:D
 
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