The 336 Club

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Welcome in, Whetrock. Fine looking rifle. Congrats on the its 'pre' status.
I got lucky too; got one of the last before the switch.

I'm liking the idea of a new 3030 with a rear peep sight... but what do you do about the buckhorn over the barrel? take it off somehow, or just leave it, useless but still there, like an appendix?
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Texan Scott, just 'ping' it out with a hammer and point (slides out to either side) and put it away in a safe place, labeled for future generations should they wish to use it.
 
Wow, Kbeck, what a beautiful rifle. You've taken good care of it, except it sounds lonely, needs to be shot. :rolleyes: (Like mine.)
 
I have a standard 336 in 30-30 bought from Walmart a couple of years ago. It is an exceptional gun and probably my favorite hunting rifle. I have killed many wild hogs with it. I bought an AR for carrying with me to the deer lease when riding on the Ranger, just in case I run across a group of hogs, but it ended up staying in the gun cabinet and eventually was sold. Every time I left for the lease I just had to have the 336. I guess it's a mental thing...

Anyway, mine has a new trigger in it and sports a Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40 scope. I love the way it shoots!!!

Todd


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Great story, BoneDigger. Thanks for sharing.

Sheepdog, definitely not the most posts, even in Rifle Country (let alone compared to "The 642 Club" :eek: ). But we're up there.

Interestingly, The Marlin 39 Club has more posts than this one (3800+), but this one has more views (668,175).

Besides, we're more about quality that quantity. :D
 
Figured it was time update my relationship status here on 336-book. Still the proud owner and user of 336's in 30-30 and my favorite and most used 38-55 (the parent case for the 30-30).

Earlier this year I had a custom mold made ( www.accuratemolds.com ) for my 38-55 336 Cowboy. The Lee 379-250 had been working well but I wanted a few tweaks to make it a little better in my rifle. I wanted it to drop .382" (or bigger), I wanted a bore riding ogive ahead of the crimp groove and I wanted a flat base.

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The first casting was very encouraging.
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Loaded and ready to go to the range
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The on paper results reinforced my optimism
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However, nothing is truly tested until we get it out to at least 400 yards
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Blo3Dd3Wq4E

A few details: Bullet weight = 260 grains, enough Unique powder to get it going a bit over 1300 fps, Winchester primers, Starline (long) Brass (THE brass to use with this caliber), Marlin 336 Cowboy (Conversion. Originally began life as a late sixties vintage Saddle Ring Texan before being converted, by Marlin to a Cowboy a few years ago).

LOVE that rifle. Awesome on Milk Jugs too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-kTlnhsa2Q

Some early testing out in the yard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFgr2poOY-E&feature=endscreen&NR=1
 
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Great to 'see you', Mo.

Fine mold setup.

And a 'ding' at 400 yds standing, repeated ... :eek:

Yeah, OK, I'm impressed. You must'a been shooting for a while.

And the icing is catching the bullet in the 18th jug. Wow. Just too cool. :cool:
 
Cool stuff justsaymo. How big was the Steelmat 400 yards? Are you using just the buckhorn sights? I've hit at 400 yards with my 30-30 but I was prone and had a 2.5x scope. You did it standing and sitting with open sights. Very impressive.
 
The target is the "Baby Buffalo" we use for 600-1000 yard practice for the Quigley match. It is less than half the size of the Quigley Buffalo which they shoot at 800 (or is it 860?) yards. This target is three 36" long well casing tubes and three 32" well casing tubes. So roughly 40" wide when facing it square on, the 600, 800 & 1,000 yard lines and a bit skinnier from the 400 and 500 yard lines as we're shooting from about a 22* angle on it.

400 is about as far as I can go with open sights. I've managed 1,000 yards using a Montana vintage Arms tang sight.

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I was smiling for a month after that day. That was when it used to only be the three 32" tubes until we found out how big the Quigley targets are and added another set of tubes.

My friend managed to connect from 1,000 yards OFFHAND (Video here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO6ihrcukcc

Here we are earlier this month dialing in his Sharps at 600
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfeAmjNmUzc

and 800
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=RjMZ4yTGl1Q

We just recently added an 18" disc for 400 yards and in. In this video I'm testing it for dingtone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKG8SuPR8DM

We did some penetration tests with a few old calibers 32-20, 38-55 & 45-70 late last winter on a FAT cow. The owner had run out of hay for ol T-Bone Fieldloafer and we could test a few shots through the boiler room (after we put him down - used a 30-30 cast bullet for that).

In this footage there is a dead cow. If'n yer squeamish you might want to skip this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b_h7ViNeJQ
The 38-55 load we used (200 fps LESS than the previous milk jug video) zipped right through 30" of Cow and was caught in the sixth jug. Pretty impressive for 1300 fps.

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Well, I can`t share pictures with you. I`ve just about managed to cope with 19th century technology. I used to be fair hand with 19th century chemical photo processes& developed B&W film, made my own B&W prints.
Have a really nice digital camera the kids gave me -it sure looks good on the shelf, makes an awesome paperweight, but if I want to make a picture I`d need a flat hunk of stone and a chisel but the wife won`t let me use the digi-cam properly, that is as a hammer to my chisel.
On the plus side I got a Lee Classic Reloader kit in 30-30 cal. & all the fixings, including
160 gr Hornady FTX bullets.
And I put a Skinner rear aperature sight on my 336.
 
So i've looked over every used Winchester 94 I can find, and lots of Marlin 336s, too... which all seem to be priced higher than a brand new 336W, at least around here. I like fancy walnut as much as anyone, but I can live without it.
My worry is, I've read so much griping about the new Remington-owned Marlins, and I'm a little concerned about it. Are they really that bad? If I'm looking at the rifle in person (not ordering via GB or something), are there any specific or common defects I should look for/ could screen for before buying? Or would I really be better off spending as much or slightly more on a used rifle? (factoring in that I'm not looking to collect old Marlins- I'll eventually cut it, reblue it, refininsh the stock, or otherwise bubba away any perceived 'original condition collector's value' in pursuit of a better hog gun- one more reason I don't need to pay for walnut).
 
Sorry, Tx. Scott, I don`t have a definite answer for you. But somebody I know asked a similar question and was advised he couldn`t go wrong with a new Mossberg lever gun- no, not that taticool thing- but one in traditional configuration. he seems pleased with it.
Dunno if this helps at all.
 
I've looked at the 464s. Again, at least here, a new 464 is priced higher than a 336W. Also, I'm not comfortable with the safety, though i could get used to it.... the hammer! the HAMMER! it's horrible! No half-cock (that i can find, anyway) and i know if i'm not REALLY careful, i'll be back in the "Stupiest thing I ever did with a gun" thread explaining the boot on my left foot/ ruptured water main/ ND on a brand new 30-30. :uhoh:
 
Scott
I think there is a half cock on the Mossy 464. You could probably find an instrction sheet on line and find out for sure. Price wise I was told the Mossy was less than a 336, but we live in different parts of the country- local conditions usually do vary.
Hate to see you with a hurting foot or worse. :eek:
 
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