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The Brady Campaign : When Will Sen. Craig Start...

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Harry Tuttle

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The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence Asks: When Will Sen. Craig StartTelling the Truth about The NRA's Gun Immunity Bill?

To: National Desk, Congressional Reporter

Contact: Peter Hamm of The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, 202-898-0792

WASHINGTON, July 27 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following was released today by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence:

Senator Larry Craig, the National Rifle Association board member who is the chief sponsor of the bill to grant sweeping civil immunity to gun sellers, said repeatedly this morning that the legislation allows negligence cases against gun sellers to proceed. That is untrue, and the Senator knows it.

The exceptions to immunity in the bill include cases involving "negligent entrustment" and "negligence per," extremely narrow and technical legal doctrines that have no application to the vast majority of cases where gun sellers have enabled criminal to get guns.

"Senator Craig says 'read the bill,'" said Michael D. Barnes, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "He will regret giving that advice. No Senator who actually reads this dreadful special interest bill could possibly defend voting for it. It is clear that the bill's supporters have read nothing but the gun lobby's talking points."

"If Senator Craig is telling the truth, he should allow the bill to be amended right now to allow negligence cases. It would take five minutes to draft the appropriate language," Barnes said. "He won't agree. He wants to bar negligence cases against reckless gun sellers, and the NRA wrote the bill for him to do just that."

During the Senate Floor debate on the bill in the last Congress, Senator Craig and other immunity proponents actually opposed and defeated an amendment offered by Senator Levin (D-Mich.) that would have at least allowed cases against gun sellers shown to have engaged in "grossly negligent or reckless" conduct.

Under current law, a gun seller can be held civilly liable if it engages in negligent conduct that causes harm. For example, in a lawsuit filed by victims of the Washington, D.C.-area sniper attacks, the sniper victims sought to hold gun dealer Bull's Eye Shooter Supply of Tacoma, Washington, liable for allowing the snipers to obtain a Bushmaster XM-15 semiautomatic assault rifle. Bull's Eye had such shoddy security that Lee Malvo, the 17-year-old sniper, was apparently able to walk into the gun dealer's shop and walk out with the three-foot-long assault rifle, even though he was prohibited from buying a gun. The sniper's weapon was one of more than 230 guns that "disappeared" from the dealer in three years, and dozens of its guns were traced to crime. A Washington State court found that Bull's Eye's conduct could be found at trial to be negligent, and allowed the suit. Bull's Eye later settled the case for $2 million. The immunity bill would have barred this suit because it bans suits based on gun dealer negligence. As the late Lloyd Cutler, former White House Counsel, concluded, after conducting his own independent analysis, the bill's narrow exceptions for "negligent entrustment" and "negligence per se" would not have preserved the victims' case if the immunity bill had become law.

Seventy-five law professors have written to Congress opposing the bill because the exception to immunity are so narrow that the bill "would largely immunize those in the firearms industry from liability for negligence." "No other industry," the professors wrote, "enjoys or has ever enjoyed such a blanket freedom from responsibility for the foreseeable and preventable consequences of negligent conduct."

http://www.usnewswire.com/

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto..._the_truth_about_the_nra_s_gun_immunity_bill_
 
I just saw

the latest ad they ran in Roll Call (a Capitol Hill-targeted local paper), the one with the sweaty, wife-beater-wearing, "firearms dealer" standing behind a Barrett .50, claiming "he just sold this to a terrorist, and the immunity bill will prevent anything from being done about it!" :barf:
 
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?

Conan: To crush your enemies, see
them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!
 
I notice they didn't mention the part of the Bull's Eye case where Bushmaster was also sued and paid out $2.5 million in the same case as part of a settlement deal. I guess Bushmaster was negligent for selling to a gun dealer who was negligent in allowing people to steal their stuff.

Because you know, it isn't the fault of the criminal or anything... he is just misunderstood. Its the rest of you working for a living that are the problem....
 
Bushmaster never paid out $2.5 million dollars as part of any settlement. Bushmaster's insurers gave the company a sum of money for their legal defense fund and hung Bushmaster out to dry. When the case against Bushmaster was dropped, Bushmaster gave (gave as in charity) the remaining money to the victims of the "snipers". The victims didn't get one cent out of Bushmaster in any settlement, by Bushmaster's good graces, they were given $2.5 million.

This is exactly why this legislation is needed, the amount paid to Bushmaster was not disclosed, but it was definitely more than $2.5 million. At least $2.5 million was what an insurer was willing to pay to not deal with a lawsuit. All paid for by you and me. With insurance companies, put $4 dollars in at the top, you'll be lucky to see $1 come out. Once again paid for by you and me.
 
Are you sure, pcf? I don't recall this being a "donation." I recall this being a settlement to make the suit go away. It's not like Bushmaster had already won and then said "What are we going to do with all this money here?"
 
I guess Bushmaster was negligent for selling to a gun dealer who was negligent in allowing people to steal their stuff.

That is what they think. The manufacturers should be auditing dealers, and refusing to sell to problematic dealers, instead of the ATF doing its job and revoking that dealer's license.

Come to think about it, that is what I would do. Sue the ATF for not revoking the dealer's license, after they knew of the problems. the Gov't has a lot deeper pockets than Bushmaster.
 
Henry,
You're right. Bushmaster claims that the case would have been dismissed, however, they would have been bankrupted by lawyer fees. Below is Bushmaster's statement.

(too many lawsuits, too few brain cells, need to re-read before posting)

Bushmaster Responds to Brady Groups False Claim of Victory
Thursday September 9, 2004 9:24AM est

Windham, Maine -- The Washington DC Brady Group would have you believe they won some kind of victory! The Brady Group brought this lawsuit not for the victims, but for their anti-gun agenda. The Brady Group asked for the settlement conference after reviewing all the evidence they knew they could not be successful in court and they wanted to stop paying lawyer fees.

The Brady Group sent a second tier lawyer to the settlement conference with nine demands on Bushmaster regarding business practices and Bushmaster denied them all. We then gave the Brady Group our statement that we support the BATF licensing requirements to be a Federal Firearms Licensed (FFL) holder and our support for the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) safety programs, and they accepted our statement. We did not agree and would not agree to change the way we do business or make any additional demands of our customers. We were emphatic that Bushmaster did not commit any wrong doings.

The attorney for our insurance company was at the settlement conference and informed us that about half of our policy limits had been spent on trial lawyers. It was the insurance company’s position that all of the limit would be spent on this case, and therefore turned the funds over to Bushmaster to use as we saw fit removing the insurance company from the case. Our choice was to continue spending it on trial lawyers or turn it over directly to the victims’ families with no funds going to the Brady Group for their legal fees.

We felt the compassionate thing to do was give it to the victims’ families, not because we had to but because we wanted to. The Washington DC Brady Group should learn what compassion is really all about!

Bushmaster strongly believes and vigorously supports the rights of citizens to own and use firearms, and the settlement of this case in no way compromises that stand. The Brady Group’s attempt at claiming a victory over firearms manufacturers is a hollow one with no substance. Their attempt to eliminate gun rights of citizens has failed legislatively and will continue to fail with these frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers.

Bushmaster Firearms, Inc.
 
Perhaps a more appropriate question is:

"Will the Brady Campaign EVER tell the truth ? ?
 
BTW, if 75 law professors are against something, I am for it. If 75 law professors are for something, I am against it.

I think it would depend upon the law professor and why they were against it. There are a heck of a lot of law professors and 75 doesn't really mean a heck of a lot. This bill sounds good on paper, but I just wonder if it is all it is cracked up to be. Sorry, I am just leery of most of what congress does.
 
The Brady Campaign accusing ANYONE of telling lies is on a par with Ted Kennedy lecturing others about safe driving.
 
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