Let me fix that for you for clarity and the real world.Many of the gun controls imposed during our generation(babyboomers) came about because of tragedy caused by the use of easily obtained firearms.
There, I think that will do it. The actions of the criminal few do not define the lives of the lawful many.Many of the unconstitutional unilateral civilian disarmament statutes imposed during our generation(babyboomers) came about because of widely publicized criminal activity siezed on by anti rights politicians and media, caused by the criminal misuse of firearms, whether obtained lawfully or unlawfully.
Come to amer....i mean Arizona. A sale like the one described from your youth could still go down.I was thinking about how I came to own my first firearm as a kid. When I was five I was walking around my neighborhood when I came across a yard sale. There was a brand new Marlin Model 100 for sale for $10.00. It was still in the box. I looked it over carefully (well, as careful as a young kid could) when its owner appeared.
The first thing he said was "Hi Solomonson, would your Father allow you to have a rifle?" I replied that I think he would. So he said "let's call him" and we went inside his house to call. He and my Dad talked for a few minutes and then hung up. My neighbor said my Dad had approved the sale.
Excited I said "let me go get the money!" as I readied myself for the 4 block run. He said "aren't you forgetting something -- your rifle?" as he handed me the boxed Marlin. Once home I laid the sweet little 22 on my bed, raided my piggy bank (with my Mom's assistance) and tore back to the seller's house to complete the deal. It was at that point that he gave me three boxes of .22 shells (shorts, in red boxes with a black stripe) and a half box of Remington.410 shells for the future.
If a young person was to get their first firearm today here in California, it would require one of their parents to spend $25.00 to take a firearms safety test, plus $25.00 in fees for the first firearm -- plus of course the 10 day wait. That $50.00 in combined fees and 10 day wait are particularly diabolical when one is trying to purchase their first firearm.
Doing that deal with my neighbor would have been even more expensive -- $60.00 including another $10.00 fee for the person to person transfer plus the wait of course.
There still are very inexpensive used first-time buyer's "beginner's" out there in the $50-100.00 range. Less if the person wants rid of the gun, or is wanting to help someone own their own gun, but the bloody fees and wait period add considerably to the cost and the effort.
I think these fees give people pause to ever getting into guns/the shooting sports while they're young and that's a same. A $25.00 fee is a prickly irritant when someone is buying their umpteenth Glock or AR. A $50-60 barrier to entry to someone buying their first firearm is downright UN-American!
Huh?
It wasn't the "easily obtained firearms" that caused those tragedies, but they made an excellent scapegoat. JFK, RFK, and MLK would still be just as dead since Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, and James Earl Ray wanted them dead, and would have found a way to obtain their weapons and ammunition regardless of controls.
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Let me fix that for you for clarity and the real world.
That does not mean I agree with all of the gun control implemented since I bought my first gun, just that one needs to keep things in perspective.
At 14 or 15 a classmate and I skipped study hall and walked 5-6 blocks to a secondhand shop -- he got some top-break .38 (S&W?) and I got a 32 ACP, I recall they were $10 & $15. Back to school with them in jacket pockets,home again, nobody the wiser (even parents).
I don't see anything all that wrong with it aside from (possibly?)feeling the need to hide it from mom and Dad. I would have a talk with my child and say you don't need to hide anything from me, let's go out and shoot itWhat you describe isn't good in my opinion. Interesting, but not good.
I don't see anything all that wrong with it aside from (possibly?)feeling the need to hide it from mom and Dad. I would have a talk with my child and say you don't need to hide anything from me, let's go out and shoot it
Well that thinking, and fear And distrust of having guns in others hand is very similar to the antis line of thinking. I intend absolutely no offense by it, but think about it. People weren't getting gunned down in the streets by children back then and if they were available to minors I still believe that would be the case....as it is the case. I k ow for a fact there are a lot of minors that do have access to guns...millions? I don't know numbers...and it's still not a problem. Shootings are very rare per capita, even rarer with our youth.As much as I dislike gov't intervention -- particularly in the case of gun control, selling handguns to 14-15 year olds is spectacularly bad form. While it worked out in your case, there's no doubt that such sellers also sold to minors who did bad things with the firearms -- the sorts of things that come with a lack of maturity.
Well that thinking, and fear And distrust of having guns in others hand is very similar to the antis line of thinking. I intend absolutely no offense by it, but think about it. People weren't getting gunned down in the streets by children back then and if they were available to minors I still believe that would be the case....as it is the case. I k ow for a fact there are a lot of minors that do have access to guns...millions? I don't know numbers...and it's still not a problem. Shootings are very rare per capita, even rarer with our youth.
First of all, I did not do anything like that...not sure if you are directingSorry but no sale.
#1) You're dealing with 14 or 15 year old kids, not adults. Kids aren't fully formed in the way they think at that age. Kids tend to be...immature.
#2) Your own immaturity was evidenced by your not telling your parents or heaven forbid asking their permission before your bought. A mature kid certainly would have.
#3) This is a far cry from when kids would lug 9 pound single shot .22 rifles to school for after school rifles team practice.
bigbore44 said:But I don't think many could dispute that kids today are 10x more oblivious to what goes on around them then they used to be. And have a much decreased sense of responsibility than they used to.
Either you haven't been around too many kids lately, or you refuse to let the facts interfere with your opinion.
You think that their obliviousness and decreased sense of responsibility causes them to commit fewer violent crimes?
If not, how do you explain the juvenile violent crime rate today being about half what it was 40 years ago?
https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/JAR_Display.asp?ID=qa05201
That's about the same as me Dragon breath. My folks gave me a .22 (Model 55 Winchester) for my 10th birthday, an over/under .22 Mag/.410 Stevens for my 12th, a .308 Winchester M-100 for my 15th, and a 12ga. Remington 1100 for my 16th. And they all hung on the gun rack I built in my bedroom. Furthermore, I was the oldest of 4 siblings. I don't know how we're all still alive.My first gun was a Marlin model 60 that I got for Christmas when I was 10. By the time I was 12, I had a 22, a .410 pump, and a M1 carbine. All of which were kept in a gun rack in my bedroom.
Move to Vermont. On second thought, please don't. Quantity always makes quality suffer.