Another Consideration
All these threads about TEOTWAWKI , Ammo supplies being out, no way to get ammo, or components.
I was born in '55, JFK shot in '63, GCA of '68, Add Cold War, Missles being pointed at us by Cuba...
I grew up with Folks, them Mentors and Elders I mention often, being self reliant.
All these Threads today - folks back when, and before me, were doing all this stuff already to be self reliant.
Folks did not "just to the corner gun store" and for sure did not order off the Internet. Some only came to town twice a month.
Folks hoarded Single Shot Shotguns and had supplies to reload pellet and slug loads.
Even back then folks did slugs , even the simple ones, which are still very effective similar to some on this page - just the simple round ball.
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LOTs of .22 ammo, for single shot .22 rifles, and Medium frame revlovers, 1911 and all - Them simple hand held Lee Reloaders stuck back. Duplicates, old trade ins, pawn shop finds...hoarded.
I gravitated to shotguns, I never got into metallic. Still, folks always had a way to reload ammo.
Always kept stores put back to reload ammo. WE didn't know what all may happen.
No Gubmint to call on 911, did not have 911. Tornado come thru, and too many times canned goods, water, guns, ammo, and reloading stuff taken to and used by victims.
Why we hoarded. Someones house / area hit / gets tossed to pcs, and the guns in it, or the barns are gone...WE were neighborly . This was recipricated.
I mean a simple single stage MEC wiil make a round ball slug that will take a deer, I have done it, and seen it happen to many times. Pellet loads for game, for food...
The hardware store is gone, the bait shop is gone...All that ammo they had is gons...house is gone and you are guarding what you have ...with a borrowed gun, ammo given and the means to make more.
I was big enough to shoot a 28 ga. Single shot shotgun by myself. Mentor hands me a reload, and tells me to shoot the door off an wrecked Desota [ Car make at the time].
Yep, that 28 ga round ball slug went thru that old, heavy metal door.
"Why?"
"Because the looters may be shooting at you and using that car door as cover, you may have to stop a serious threat, get them to stop shooting folks with that 28 ga single shot you can handle"
"Oh! Can I shoot some more please".
'Yep, then we gonna show you how to make more"
"Oh boy!"
How raised - what you do.