The German Generals in the end were cowards!

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I have often thought how heroic some German Generals were during WWII and yet what cowards some were. In all the attempts by the German officer corps to kill Hitler, the plotters were always willing to kill innocent bystanders (and did). The plotters in spite of their "noble" cause were seldom if ever willing to lay down their lives for the "cause". Many of the plot leaders would have gained in power and position had their plot suceeded, they would have been rewarded for their "risk". What about the "collateral damage?" Many German Generals of WWII IMHO were world class warriors but moral cowards.

Question: What pistol/caliber would you have used against Hitler to do the dirty deed upclose and personal?
 
How I'd handle it...

Not exactly firearms related. I'd strangle the useless little prick and then shove a large zucchini up his ???. That way it would look like he accidentally killed himself in a very compromising manner. Let the people who elected him try to spin that one!
 
In October of 1942, under the Trading With the Enemy Act, the U.S. government halted operations at New York's Union Banking Corporation. A bank official was charged with "Running Nazi front groups in the United States."

His name: Prescott Bush.

Prescott Bush, father of future U.S President George Herbert Walker Bush and grandfather of George W. Bush, had been hard at work on behalf of his Nazi partners. In flagrant violation of U.S. law, Prescott Bush had worked tirelessly to launder money, procure raw materials, arrange transportation and provide guidance for the Nazi war effort and the German army he had helped to build.

Now to my point... What would you all do to Prescott?

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Let's get all French-like and exhume him and then send him to the guillotine.

Now to my point... What would you all do to Prescott?
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Sins of the Grandfather and all that. Maybe you should dig up Charles Lindbergh while you're at it.:rolleyes:
 
The German officer corps was happy to go along with Hitler because his policies built-up the German armed forces and gave the officers new toys and powers. It also allowed them to get revenge on France. Later in the war, when they realized that Hitler had lead Germany to ruin, a few did attempt to eliminate him. This attempt was too little and too late.

Hitler was smart, in that German officers had to pledge a personal oath of allegance to him, something that their code of "honor" prevented them from breaking. They made a pact with the devil and they and their nation paid for it.
 
Hey Jitsu,

Nice piece of plagurism from truthout.org's website.

I wonder if Mr. Ash would like an attribution...

What Mr. Ash doesn't tell you is that the US government COMPENSATED Prescott Bush for the seizure of his SINGLE SHARE of Union Banking Corporation stock holdings.

Let's also not forget just how many other corporations had close business partnerships with Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan at the same time... IBM, Ford, Chrysler, US Steel, Alcoa, and many, many others.

Here's an interesting look at the Prescott Bush/UBC connection:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/030214.html


And let's not forget that Bill Clinton pardoned Marc Rich in his last days as President...

When one of the crimes of which Mr. Rich was accused was "trading with the enemy."

Does that fact make Bill Clinton guilty of aiding and abetting the enemy, in this case Iran?
 
Mike,

Good dig... However, Bush was the managing director of Union Bank at the time of war. It's not as if he was just a stock holder.

And yeah, Bill was/is just as much a low-life scum as G.W.

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Jitsuguy,

Here's a thought: take your political Hitler, Stalin or what ever views to a college campus of your choice. That war is over...give it a rest! :cuss:
 
"Bush was the managing director of Union Bank at the time of war."

Not according to anything that I can find.

Bush was a director, as were E. Roland Harriman (who was also chairman), Cornielus Lievensen, president and director, Harold Pennington, treasurer and director.

Those titles are from UBCs own incorporation papers.


Ultimately, though, I'm still trying to figure out what your point may be. The original message had nothing to do with this subject, other than your apparent pathetic and desparate desire to try to smear George W. Bush by familial associations that happened long before he was even born.

If "sins of the fathers" are to be visited on the son, would you keep your head?
 
What innocents and "collateral damage" are you talking about? The Nazi officials surrounding Hitler? If the Allies could have bombed his HQ and killed Hitler at the cost of killing innocent people as well, would that have made the moral cowards? For that matter, both parties in the war caused untold damage to civilian targets throughout the war. That was just the nature of the conflict.
 
High ranking military officers do not normally go out and fight in actual combat, so there is little chance of being killed. Oddly enough, the highest ranking US officer killed in Europe was done so by so-called "friendly-fire".

Other than the Japanese military, it is not common for high ranking officers to kill themselves to avoid capture. Surrendering was not considered dishonorable, just part of doing business. That is why there was a war crimes trial after the war, to separate those that went beyond what a normal military leader should do in warfare.

Hitler did not kill himself due to any sense of bravery or honor. He greatly feared being captured and paraded through the streets like his Italian partner in crime had just suffered. He even feared his body being recovered and placed on public display by the Russians, hence his orders for immediate cremation.
 
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