The Maryland AWB of 2007

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We have a copy of it posted at my shop (Bart's Sport World in Glen Burnie). I tried to give a copy to the folks at Select fire, but was told they weren't interested. then I was asked to leave as my cell phone was still clipped to my belt. I got the impression they don't care much.:banghead:
 
A few random ideas to run past your rep's

I posted a crazy, generic anti-AWB tactic thread here a few weeks ago, but maybe some citizens of Maryland can test out some of the ideas on their legislators?

For any shorter-than-average and/or female shooters out there: Write your rep's and tell them that banning adjustable stocks would directly discriminate against you. Explain to them that the 5 or 6 inch difference between a fully extended and collapsed M4-style stock in no way makes the remaining 26+ inch, 6 or 7 pound rifle magically fit in one's pocket. Then, perhaps, tell them that should the law pass, you will have legal counsel on the phone posthaste to sue the state for discrimination. Bonus points for shrill, PC-flavored rhetoric. Or, as the old saying goes, sometimes one must fight fire with fire.

For the pistol grips, try explaining to them that the devices serve an ergonomic purpose. Perhaps add an analogy that it would be like banning wrist wrests on modern keyboards? And if you want to up the ante a bit, tell them you will hold the State liable for any repetitive stress injury/carpal tunnel syndrome you may develop resulting from their banning of such a safety device. Bonus points: if your job involves any sort of data entry, tell the lawmakers they will be compounding your risk of RSI.

If they don't believe that last one, tell them to type a few pages with their forearms flat on the desk almost parallel to the keyboard, and their wrists twisted in @80° to reach the keys. A la the classic rifle position. If they listen this long and still need convincing, tell them hunters don't have this problem since they only fire a few shots during a whole trip. Target shooters (both formal competition and plinkers), on the other hand, fire hundreds of shots during a trip to the range.


And, yes, I'm well aware of how crazy this sounds. But while the risk and discrimination detailed above are somewhat minor, they're both infinitely more true than the mythical reasons to fear the "evil features" on "assault weapons.":neener:
 
leave because of a cell phone?

They said it can set off their security system.

I'm surprised that they seemed to care less about the AWB.

As a plug for Barts, I got a Ruger MkIII there a few months ago and a friend of mine got a P226 a while back.
Helpful in both cases, and they don't give you the evil eye that some shops do when you go in to take a look around.


ApexinM3, did you happen to stop by A&D pawn right down the street from you? They deal in some EBRs and a large number of handguns.
 
Apex,

I'm sorry that you weren't there when I stopped in to deliver the borchures. it would have been good to chat.

Select-Fire is blacklisted from anything I will ever do. I could care less if a sinkhole opened up on that side of Holsum Way and swallowed that place. That attitude from that guy makes all of us look bad.
 
Thanks for the heads up guys...

Seems like every year becomes a bigger and bigger fight. This year especially thanks to the election results. I will let those I know who are interested in on the bill (as I dont think anyone I know knows about it yet) and will send out letters as well.


A little off topic, but yeah, Select-Fire really grinds my gears on just about everything. I feel really uncomfortable going there as they have all kinds of off the wall rules and enforcement. The few times I did go there it was dead, unlike On Target (which is where I go when I need an indoor range now).

The guys at Barts seem cool enough, and if we have a member here owning or working at that place then thats even better. Main gripe is that there prices seem to be a good bit higher than average (I mean no offense). They sell all kinds of sports gear so I guess its cool for the soccer moms who come in to get a bat for little jimmy to see that the guns arent jumping out of the cases killing everyone who walks in. That said, my shop of choice tends to be A&D as the gentleman in there took 15 minutes of his time to explain to my mom why AR15's arent bad, even going so far as pulling out ammunition to compare the 5.56 to a very popular hunting cartridge, 30.06.
 
ALL Co-sponsors Emailed....

and just for good measure, revised the number and order of the questions in most of the emails, rather than send everyone the same email.

I'll keep us posted on any responses I receive.

Michael
 
Norton, you read my mind. Thanks for the contribution.

I was hoping someone would come up with concise, eye catching flyers.

I am going to see if it is possible to get these on the gun counter at the Arundel Mills Bass Pro.
There is a lot of traffic there and this directly affects at least the handgun sales there,
if not some of the rifles (unlikely, no EBRs sold there, not sure if any of the hunting rifles there are hit by this.)
 
Guido,

I didn't go to BassPro or to Dick's for the simple reason that I figured that they would cry the "corporate office won't allow it" blues.

I'd like you to prove me wrong.

I'll revise my previous statement.....I've hit all of the independent gun shops in AA County.
 
Norton,

I figured that might be a problem. I'll know by the middle of the week.
I am going to try and get there either tomorrow evening or Tuesday.
At the very least, I'll let some of the staff in the hunting department know about it.
Thanks again for the brochures.
 
ApexinM3, did you happen to stop by A&D pawn right down the street from you? They deal in some EBRs and a large number of handguns.

I guess I was a little slow in responding. I spoke to Gil from A&D pawn (he stopped by our shop earlier in the week), he said he already had the info & was actively trying to put the word out.

I have a call in to Otto's Police Supply down the road from me, but he hasn't called me back yet. I may just stop by & check with him.

As for Select-fire, well...I can't say anything very "High Road" so I won't. My silence should speak for itself.
 
I just finished sending emails and stuffing letters into envelopes to all members of the Judicial Proceedings Committee, all other sponsors and one to my state senator Mike Miller. I have also been talking to friends, family and other aquaintances, especially those that may own guns that would be affected by this bill.
 
Guido,

If you can tag Ottos, that would be awesome. He's not on my regular daily travels and I can't seem to catch him open.
 
If you can tag Ottos, that would be awesome. He's not on my regular daily travels and I can't seem to catch him open.

It's possible that I can get there today if he's open.

Couldn't hurt to have two of us trying to get the info there.

K-Rom....Gilbert's is WAY out of my neck of the woods, so we'll have to keep pleading for somebody in that area to hit them for us.

Any other MoCo THR'ers here?
 
From The Examiner:

http://www.examiner.com/a-534495~Frank_Keegan__Legislators_must_ban_assaults_on_thinking.html



http://tinyurl.com/2sext7



Frank Keegan: Legislators must ban assaults on thinking



Frank Keegan, The Examiner

Read more by Frank Keegan

Jan 29, 2007 3:00 AM (3 hrs ago)

Current rank: # 290 of 13,927 articles



BALTIMORE - Once again the gun nuts and anti-gun nuts will fire

volleys of misinformation for and against the proposed "assault

weapons" ban in Annapolis this year.





And again, the first casualty will be truth. The second will be reason.



Freshman Montgomery County Sen. Mike Lenett introduced this session's

assault on assault weapons because: 1. All freshmen senators must

introduce some kind of righteous, feel-good bill, and 2. He thinks a

shift on the Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee might actually give

him a shot at getting his bill out for a vote.



The committee should kill it, as it did in 2004, 6-5.



If by some chance committee members move this bill, the full Senate

must stop it. If senators do not, and somehow the General Assembly

passes it, Gov. Martin O'Malley must exercise his veto.



Why? Because of all the pointless, feel-good, propaganda-based

deception legislation foisted on the public, this is one law that

actually can cause harm.



It will delude uninformed citizens into thinking their government is

acting to reduce violent crime.



It can injure the greater common good by turning otherwise law-abiding

residents of Maryland into criminals.



And it can put us all at greater risk by disarming the only people we

don't have to worry about committing crimes with guns while doing

nothing more to prevent those who do.



Some politicians know "assault weapons" laws are shams, but cynically

support them pandering to a thin, fuzzy majority that thinks "assault

weapons" are fully automatic machine guns. Every state and Congress

made those very illegal almost a century ago. Existing law can put you

away forever merely for possessing one.



Other politicians support these bills because they're simply afraid

for show-business reasons to oppose them. Who wants to take a chance

on being "for assault weapons"?



And others back them out of pure well-intentioned misunderstanding.



A political reality in this country is that there is a strong

prejudice against guns, a prejudice based — as are all prejudices — on

abysmal ignorance.



Both sides in the gun debate rack up statistics as ammunition in a

debate both sides can prove depending on where they aim.



The U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics provides the best and most

objective data. One study of state and federal prisoners shows only

about 2 percent used a "military style semiautomatic gun" — the

accepted definition of assault weapons — when they committed the

crimes that put them behind bars.



The same study found that of all guns used by these criminals, 80

obtained them from "family, friends, a street buy or an illegal

source," effectively putting them outside the restraint of any law.



So, at best these misguided assault weapons bans might impact 20

percent of only 2 percent of violent gun crime, while turning millions

of honest Americans into criminals.



The fact is, even though the much-interpreted 2nd Amendment says

"Congress shall make no law . . . ," Congress and the states have made

thousands of laws limiting our right to keep and bear arms.



No one can prove conclusively that armed citizens reduce crime — and

despotism — but where is it written that a legitimate role of

government is to make us easier prey?



Ban proponents argue no one needs an "assault weapon." No one needs a

fast car, either. No one needs alcohol, tobacco and a host of other

things that are not banned, but licensed and regulated as are

firearms, though not to the same degree.



The worst thing about such bans, other than their absolute failure to

effect positive change, is the fact that they let politicians pretend

to be doing something about crime.



Statistics cannot tell us accurately how much gun violence involves

the weapons they seek to ban. What statistics can tell us is how many

crimes, such as murder, criminals commit with guns and who their

victims are.



In Maryland, according to the latest BJS data, murderers kill more

than 74 percent of their victims with firearms, and almost 72 percent

of those victims are African American males.



What are our leaders doing about this plague, this self-inflicted

genocide? It obviously is not the result of lawful ownership of

semi-automatic military style firearms, which Lenett seeks to ban.



So let him and those who support his misguided measure explain what

their true motives are.



Frank J. Keegan is editor of The Baltimore Examiner.
 
Question on Ballistic Fingerprinting

Is this lame duck still out there?

I'm going to write all the JPR members tonight and urge them to not support the AWB, for due both to its ineffectiveness at reducing crime and it being a waste of taxpayer money. While I was thinking baout waste of taxpayer money, the ballistic fingerprinting law emerged in my memory. Is it dead, or alive and helping no one?

Michael
 
Update on gun bills (CCW reform filed?!)

First the bad:


Manno's preemption attack is supposedly scheduled for some sort of hearing in Annapolis on Feb. 10. It is not clear from the article if this is just to get the MoCo Delegation to approve it, or if this is the whole House Jud. Cmte hearing (which I doubt). There is nothing so far on the legislative bill index.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/28/AR2007012801267_2.html

Delegate Offers Anti-Gun Strategy

A freshman delegate from Montgomery County has an unconventional plan for getting illegal guns off county streets: enacting stricter gun laws in the county than the ones in place in the rest of the state.

Del. Roger Manno (D) introduced a bill that would give the County Council the authority to set gun laws. "I want to give them the toolbox they need to address the challenges that exist," he said.

Last week, Manno asked the rest of the Montgomery delegation to accept the bill as a late-filed bill. As a courtesy, the bill was received. A public hearing has been scheduled for Feb. 10 in Annapolis.

Del. Thomas Hucker (D) said he supports Manno's "innovative approach to a thorny issue."

But delegation Chairman Charles E. Barkley (D) predicted that Manno might have trouble getting enough support for the measure. "He's got to convince the delegation," Barkley said.

Even the council and County Executive Isiah Leggett (D) have not taken a position on the bill.

"It's going to be controversial," Barkley said. "I don't know if I would have done it in my first year. I probably would have waited until my second year.

Now the good:

It looks like a CCW reform bill was filed in the House!

http://mlis.state.md.us/2007RS/billfile/hb0228.htm
HOUSE BILL 228
File Code: Public Safety
Sponsored By:
Delegates Riley, James, Bates, Boteler, Bromwell, DeBoy, Dwyer, Glassman, Impallaria, Jennings, Kach, Kelly, Krebs, Kullen, McComas, McDonough, Myers, Stifler, and Wood

Entitled: Handguns - Wearing, Carrying, or Transporting - Permits

No bill text yet up for HB 288; check back tomorrow; the fact that guys like Dwyer and Kelly are sponsoring it makes it look like it will be a good one.
 
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MD Hunter: BS-fingerprinting is still around

The statute is still on the books, and gun makers still have to include the casings, but I understand that Ehrlich didn't waste MSP money on the program and used the funds instead for, you know, LAW ENFORCEMENT or something. The cases were shipped to MSP, but stuck in some warehouse somewhere and not entered into the system.

O'Malley will probably turn back on the spigot and send more tax money down the drain in continuing the BSFP program.
 
If you guys can't catch him, I work around the corner from him & will be able to stop by. Let me know, I'd be glad to help out.

I tried Otto's this morning, but he has very limited hours.

From the sign on his door:

Monday 2-4pm
Tues 9-11am
Thurs 4-6pm

Closed all other days.

I hit Clyde's down in Landsdowne today. Cool little shop. Lots of fishing and hunting gear, some handguns.
 
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