[QUOTE="Tirod[/QUOTE]
I hear you man, I really do. But I think you’re kind of using “potential fatal flaw” and “operator error” interchangeably. Not operating a pistol properly is not a potential fatal flaw. The Hk squeeze cocker would definitely be operator error as for as it to not work you would have to not squeeze the squeeze cocker in the front of the grip which is part of normal and proper operation of the pistol. As far as people shooting themselves in the leg with glocks, that topic has literally been beaten to death. A glock does not fire unless someone or something pulls the trigger, plain and simple. How many stories were there of undisciplined law enforcement officers shooting themselves trying to disassemble glocks while loaded? Dozens. Like I stated on the Cz p10c video thread, I feel a fatal flaw or potential fatal flaw is when every thing is done correctly to operate the pistol and something mechanically fails or a device intended to do something fails to do so. Grip safety sears breaking and ceasing up a gun, slide plates shifting down and allowing a striker to rotate and keep the gun out of battery, a thumb safety that when engaged still allows a gun to fire (ccp), a gun that has a drop safe device that can be made to fire when dropped with ease of consistency, or any other scenario you can think of that fits those lines. Then again this is just my opinion and you are welcomed to have yours. I just disagree. I have no problems with grip safeties, I’ve never had a grip safety sear on any of the dozen or so 1911’s I’ve owned over the years fail on me or not deactivate when I wanted it to. I’ve even run some 1911’s in some high stress type classes in the past as well. I never ever gave thought to that part of a 1911 failing me and making the gun inoperable. But it did indeed happen to the one xd pistol I owned. Heck I hear of guys that have flawless hi points, but the one I had years ago for a boat gun was completely useless except for an anchor, which was not its intended purpose. To give hi point some credit though, I never gave their customer service and repair dept a chance to fix it. I just got rid of it and got a real gun (enters SA 1911A1). The best way to know what guns fail a lot is to ask instructors who see a variety of guns on a regular basis. Take a class with a reputable instructor who does a lot of business and ask him. They have no reason to lie. In the classes I’ve taken I’ve seen a lot of 1911 failures (not mine) and I think I can attribute that to bad magazines and bad gun maintenance practice from what I’ve seen and heard. I know revolvers fail to if you use them enough but I’ve yet to see a revolver fail in the half dozen or so classes I’ve taken over the years
