The "newest" thing will be compensators on almost all pistols.

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I have a background in manufacturing and selling guns, gun parts and accessories. Probably a wee bit more relevant here
In addition to your experience, I've polled the dozen or so folks in my contacts list who make at least a portion of their income training others in both offensive and defensive firearms use. (Some of them may not like me as much as I'd thought since they haven't replied).
"Question- would you recommend adding a compensator on a pistol for someone who struggles with managing their carry gun?"
The 5 that have replied have been a flat "No" x3, a "Not hardly" and one "Seriously? April Fool's was a couple days ago"

Edit* I'd messaged 11, heard back from all but 1. All negative.
 
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Way off target. This is new guns, new buyers.


Well it is a well known fact that you can look up that adding a barrel mounted compensator can and will require a change of recoil spring weight. And this includes brand new pistols too. And it is also a well know fact that 115Gr 9mm ammo sold as range/training ammo in the last three years is underpowered which again can cause cycling issues with brand new pistols with or without a compensator.

And again , common knowledge that anytime you add weight to a pistol either directly to the slide or to the barrel, that extra weight can absolutely effect how the pistol functions. Add the extras weights along with weak ammo will only lead to headaches.

As @MachIVshooter said, some of us have a lot more experience working on and/or building firearms and accessories than others do. I am a retired machinist/tool and die maker, and gunsmith. I have been down this road about adding weight such as compensators or suppressors to pistols and having both effect how the pistol cycles. Yes a barrel mounted comp will work but it won't make much difference versus running without a comp on most pistols.

As I stated before, a barrel mounted compensator will not make much difference in felt or noticeable recoil in pistols with short barrels. Plus the slower the bullet muzzle velocity is the less a compensator helps. A compensator will help with 9mm pistols with 5" or longer barrels du to the speed of most 9mm ammo. The same length barrel is a caliber that is slower, or even subsonic, will not notice any difference. Now when we get to magnum handgun calibers then yes a comp will definitely help reduce recoil and muzzle rise. Putting a comp on a compact, subcompact or micro 9mm pistol is a waste of time and money.

As MachIVshooter said, I won't argue with you, I will let my experience speak for itself. You can either agree to disagree or move on and argue with someone else.
 
Hey off post but Awesome! They are fun to make, simple and mostly they work! Ever see the 65y/o at the range trying to figure out what they just bought because the fear for their lives? A 9mm in a CCW packs a wallop. The 20y/o girl who's Dad wants her to be able to protect herself? Yurp, that 9 packs a wallop. Regardless, Comps work. The higher end guns and pro shooters all have them. The flooded market for the EDC and CCW needs what ever the new thing is. BTW, It was the dot. HHmmmm.... How many here thought that would never happen? Any chance you might put a few pics of your work?
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In addition to your experience, I've polled the dozen or so folks in my contacts list who make at least a portion of their income training others in both offensive and defensive firearms use. (Some of them may not like me as much as I'd thought since they haven't replied).
"Question- would you recommend adding a compensator on a pistol for someone who struggles with managing their carry gun?"
The 5 that have replied have been a flat "No" x3, a "Not hardly" and one "Seriously? April Fool's was a couple days ago"

Edit* I'd messaged 11, heard back from all but 1. All negative.
Nope, this is for new production. Not folks who have already purchased.
 
Well it is a well known fact that you can look up that adding a barrel mounted compensator can and will require a change of recoil spring weight. And this includes brand new pistols too. And it is also a well know fact that 115Gr 9mm ammo sold as range/training ammo in the last three years is underpowered which again can cause cycling issues with brand new pistols with or without a compensator.

And again , common knowledge that anytime you add weight to a pistol either directly to the slide or to the barrel, that extra weight can absolutely effect how the pistol functions. Add the extras weights along with weak ammo will only lead to headaches.

As @MachIVshooter said, some of us have a lot more experience working on and/or building firearms and accessories than others do. I am a retired machinist/tool and die maker, and gunsmith. I have been down this road about adding weight such as compensators or suppressors to pistols and having both effect how the pistol cycles. Yes a barrel mounted comp will work but it won't make much difference versus running without a comp on most pistols.

As I stated before, a barrel mounted compensator will not make much difference in felt or noticeable recoil in pistols with short barrels. Plus the slower the bullet muzzle velocity is the less a compensator helps. A compensator will help with 9mm pistols with 5" or longer barrels du to the speed of most 9mm ammo. The same length barrel is a caliber that is slower, or even subsonic, will not notice any difference. Now when we get to magnum handgun calibers then yes a comp will definitely help reduce recoil and muzzle rise. Putting a comp on a compact, subcompact or micro 9mm pistol is a waste of time and money.

As MachIVshooter said, I won't argue with you, I will let my experience speak for itself. You can either agree to disagree or move on and argue with someone else.
HHmmm... Doubt you'll be hired for the slew of the flooded market of EDC and CCW.
 
To get the comp you have to give up barrel length, so the comped model has a 3.1" barrel and mine has a 3.7" barrel. I have not got to shoot the comped version - heck I haven't shot the one I bought yet!
Exactly! There are literally thousands of Glocks that are brand new returned guns just because of the "lack" of a safety. Folks are buying for reasons that are not responsible. Almost all the reply's here a just, sensible and highly responsible. But, way off the target of the post.
 
So then, the post is about all the new guns that'll be equipped from the factory with compensators to wow the new-to-shooting-handgun crowd with their miraculous ability to make up for poor marksmanship and recoil management? So it's not about me. How about....

Comps have been around a long time. There are scenarios where they're useful or they wouldn't still be around. Self defense isn't among those, and the folks most likely to need to defend themselves with a handgun apparently aren't sold on compensators either. When military and LEO contracts begin to include comps on every handgun they purchase, I'll start to think you're on to something.
You are not the ignorant - which means nothing more than they don't know something - and therefor remain off post. Look at S&W, Canik....
 
Yes the Sig P365 XMacro has a compensator but I went with the Tacops (bought it last Friday) version with no comp and a longer barrel. Don't see a need for a comp really.
Same here and really don't want one. They throw way too much noise back at the shooter and unless it is a really heavy recoiling gun, I don't see any point int one except maybe in some timed competitions.
But even then, the fastest gun I own has no compensator.
 
HHmmm... Doubt you'll be hired for the slew of the flooded market of EDC and CCW.

First - I don't know why you want to argue or call me out personally, Especially since you don't know me or know what my background is. Again I have been working on and also building weapons systems for both the US Military and civilians for 30+ years. Along with that I also made to necessary tooling needed by manufacturers to produce firearm parts. So I have been around a while and have worked in all aspects of the firearms industry from design to manufacturing

Second - I'm not worried about getting hired by any one or any company since I am retired.

Third - I don't know what your experience level is . But judging by your own comments you do not have anywhere near the experiences as myself or others have.

And Finally. I told you in my last reply to either agree to disagree or find someone else to call out and argue with. I am done here. Have a good day
 
Almost all? No, but they are getting quite common and there are many shops installing them or cutting "ports."

I remember the previous wave of things like Glock "C" guns and Springfield "V" series.
We got internet warnings of jacket fragments blowing up your nose and into your brain if you shot from retention, that the flash would destroy your night vision, etc., and they kind of faded out. I had an IPSC Modified gun and a neat carry comp that would fit right into the current idiom but I neutered them when I joined IDPA. Who now allows such things.

Sig is doing integrated comps into the slidee

Yeah, and I wonder about those. Seems they are functionally equivalent to those things that attach to a 1911 in place of a barrel bushing; no baffles to direct gas up or sideways. They do make a P320 with real muzzle brake compensator.

ETA: And now also a P320 with P365 Macro type slotted slide.

I agree, the protuberant threaded muzzles are for silencer mounting - or making your buds think you are going to attach a silencer.
I have seen one shooter with a compensator on one of those, it is kind of a cobbled up USPSA Open gun.
 
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Nope, this is for new production. Not folks who have already purchased.
You do realize that over 2/3rds of gun owners own multiple guns? In 2021, first time buyers made 30% of the new gun purchases. I promise you, the manufacturers know this. https://www.guns.com/news/2022/01/26/nssf-54-million-new-1st-time-gun-owners-added-last-year
Are these new guns that'll "almost all" have compensators going to be marketed to the folks who've never owned a gun or the folks that only have one gun and need a better one?
Sure hope they figure out something to sell the other 70% of us. Quickly. If they follow your reasoning, they'll all be bankrupt.
 
I put an Armory Craft X Macro style slide on my P365 X and the additional weight and built in comp really settle the gun down. Sig is doing quite a few built in comps and I think you will see the micro 9 market respond in kind as it typically does every time Sig brings out this season’s flavor of P365 it’s a great selling point for new buyers looking for an EDC. 6926DC2D-E679-49DB-B60F-1C116B777329.jpeg
 
Same here and really don't want one. They throw way too much noise back at the shooter and unless it is a really heavy recoiling gun, I don't see any point int one except maybe in some timed competitions.
But even then, the fastest gun I own has no compensator.
So far off post it needs it's own post. The post has nothing to do with your Hx.
 
First - I don't know why you want to argue or call me out personally, Especially since you don't know me or know what my background is. Again I have been working on and also building weapons systems for both the US Military and civilians for 30+ years. Along with that I also made to necessary tooling needed by manufacturers to produce firearm parts. So I have been around a while and have worked in all aspects of the firearms industry from design to manufacturing

Second - I'm not worried about getting hired by any one or any company since I am retired.

Third - I don't know what your experience level is . But judging by your own comments you do not have anywhere near the experiences as myself or others have.

And Finally. I told you in my last reply to either agree to disagree or find someone else to call out and argue with. I am done here. Have a good day
Just because you are off target doesn't mean I'm calling you out. If you were in the R&D of one of the gun Co. flooding the market and the CEO said what can we do to get ahead of the flood? If your response was, "add a comp", You'd probably get a raise.
 
Almost all? No, but they are getting quite common and there are many shops installing them or cutting "ports."

I remember the previous wave of things like Glock "C" guns and Springfield "V" series.
We got internet warnings of jacket fragments blowing up your nose and into your brain if you shot from retention, that the flash would destroy your night vision, etc., and they kind of faded out. I had an IPSC Modified gun and a neat carry comp that would fit right into the current idiom but I neutered them when I joined IDPA. Who now allows such things.



Yeah, and I wonder about those. Seems they are functionally equivalent to those things that attach to a 1911 in place of a barrel bushing; no baffles to direct gas up or sideways. They do make a P320 with real muzzle brake compensator.

ETA: And now also a P320 with P365 Macro type slotted slide.

I agree, the protuberant threaded muzzles are for silencer mounting - or making your buds think you are going to attach a silencer.
I have seen one shooter with a compensator on one of those, it is kind of a cobbled up USPSA Open gun.
Well heck, as long as were off target, [which I find amusing] You see how stupendously long, awkward, heavy and ridiculous pistol silences are getting? UUhhgg!!!
 
You do realize that over 2/3rds of gun owners own multiple guns? In 2021, first time buyers made 30% of the new gun purchases. I promise you, the manufacturers know this. https://www.guns.com/news/2022/01/26/nssf-54-million-new-1st-time-gun-owners-added-last-year
Are these new guns that'll "almost all" have compensators going to be marketed to the folks who've never owned a gun or the folks that only have one gun and need a better one?
Sure hope they figure out something to sell the other 70% of us. Quickly. If they follow your reasoning, they'll all be bankrupt.
SPOT ON!!! Thanks for the absolute best reply! Sure be great if everyone here would read your words! Oh yeah, the answer is yes. Yes you are correct. New owners and "need"[?} a better one! Thanks! Heck yeah, for the rest of us, go out and get a Staccato XC. There's plenty of guns to go around. Remember when GS's were full of wheel guns and now? Now the cases are full of these itty bitty, ez to fire, tiny by high cap, Reminds me of phones and when getting them as small as possible was the in thing. This is truly a phase. But as long as places like so many of our famous cities are now crime ridden, folks are gonna want these small guns and the next best thing, comps, will win the sale.
 
I put an Armory Craft X Macro style slide on my P365 X and the additional weight and built in comp really settle the gun down. Sig is doing quite a few built in comps and I think you will see the micro 9 market respond in kind as it typically does every time Sig brings out this season’s flavor of P365 it’s a great selling point for new buyers looking for an EDC. View attachment 1144198
Also SPOT ON! Thanks! Nice pic! Some here may find this odd, but comps are pretty wonderful! Try my Staccato P vs Staccato XC. Is there $2k difference? Nah, But you'll like the XC better. It's just like he said folks, "It's a great selling point for new buyers looking for an EDC" Spot On!!!
 
Way off the post. If you like the issues with holsters, there needs to be a post regarding lights much more than a threaded barrel. However, If your holster has a hole large enough to pass a thread protector, Have a comp made. They can be as small as that thread protector.

Whatever you say sparky. You are basing your premise of making comps off the John Wick movies. And they are popular on ARs. Good luck with that.
 
Still waiting for some indication of why a comp would be desirable or of more interest than say, a pretty color or cute name?
Really? Well guess what. Guess you never saw all those pretty colored Glocks. Or the Huge assortment of Names for so many guns. I'll also try this one with you. You're in the R&D of a brand of guns that's just another pretty gun with a cute name and CEO say's, "What are we going to do that will make us be the choice in this flooded market?" HHmmm.... "Let's copy what S&W is doing before all the rest do it. comp them." "That's pure genius Jar! Put yourself in for a raise!" Remember, at first it was who can make them the smallest, then high cap. Then they were too short. Now it's going to be comps.
 
Compensators will not be a thing in the state of Washington.

Our new law (ESHB 1240) is banning threaded barrels and anything that screws on to one. Because then the pistol will be classed as an "assault weapon." Yes, I'll be moving out as soon as the wife retires...
See! Ya can teach an old dog new tricks! Congratulations. Florida just got concealed carry w/o permit. Where ya headed?
 
Whatever you say sparky. You are basing your premise of making comps off the John Wick movies. And they are popular on ARs. Good luck with that.
Whoa thar cowboy. Ya got yer cart and horse backwards. Don't make the exemplar the concept.
 
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