The official Trijicon MRO thread!?

[basicblur]

Didn't see any threads or posts on the just released Trijicon MRO, so I figured I'd start an "official" thread for discussion / reports, etc. of all things good or bad.

I'm interested, but probably won't really consider buying until someone (preferably Bobro) makes a QD mount for it.

I contacted (with their replies copy and pasted):
BOBRO ENGINEERING - It's starting in the woodworks here, nothing certain. But Andrew plans on making one in the next month or two.
ADM - We are working on producing a mount for the new MOR right now. We expect to release it the same day the MRO gets released.
TRIJICON - Thank you for your inquiry. We apologize for the delay in response. To my knowledge we have no plans to manufacture a QD Mount for the MRO at this time however please check back because we are always coming out with new product www.trijicon.com . We will add your request to the future product list. If we can assist you further please feel free to contact us.
LARUE - still haven't heard back from them, but I think I've seen pix and have heard numerous folks claim they either have one or one is in the works - nothing on their website at this time.
MIDWEST INDUSTRIES - waiting on reply - supposed to call me back (this evening?).


I'm about due for another red dot, and like what I see AFA specs / pics - maybe by the time Bobro makes a QD mount for it I'll have run across a good price and some reviews from actual owners.

Here's a YouTube video of first impressions from Haley Strategic - he expects to post a range video in the next week or so.

 

[aubie515]

You must think you are on ARF with this "the official" blah blah blah.


I like Trijicon, but I'm going to wait til MRO have been out at least a year before I'd consider making the purchase.

 

[basicblur]

You must think you are on ARF with this "the official" blah blah blah.

Nah...I don't hang around over there - too much testosterone.

My bad on the "official" part - I put it in quotations and also added the exclamation point AND question mark in the title, but I guess satire just doesn't come across well (for some folks) on the 'Net...

 

[Walkalong]

I like the larger objective, if you can call 25MM large. I also like the flush adjustments for zero. I bet I won't like the price. I would be very interested to see the dot or reticle they use. I would love to see a two, or more, dot system, a large one for fast fire in relatively close and a small one for finer work.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

MSRP for the MRO with Trijicon mount is already less than the retail for a bare Aimpoint T1. And I haven't seen anything sell for MSRP in the gun world for awhile now.

I'm really liking the weight, 25mm objective, and price. I'm wait and see on battery life and whether it has the funky Trijicon blue tint that the Reflex and Tripower had. Either way, it is nice to see someone make a run at Aimpoint for king of the hill. Not much competition in the T1 arena.

 

[basicblur]

I bet I won't like the price.

They show MSRP of $579 without mount, $629 with Trijicon mount (which is not QD).
Just checking two of my favorite online vendors current street prices are $493 without mount, $535 with low mount, $544 with either the mid or high mount.
Toss in free shipping and at least a 5% off coupon code and that brings it down to $468.35 sans mount.

Not bad, but since I probably won't buy (if I do) until Bobro comes out with a mount, I have time to shop.
That price would really be nice if it included a Bobro mount (as comes on the SRS)!

I would be very interested to see the dot or reticle they use.

Only thing they have now is a single, 2 MOA dot. I also wouldn't mind seeing a bit more in the reticle (BDC marks or EOTech type reticle) but you know how folks complain about "busy reticles"!

For precision work (and I still have no trouble picking it up for quick acquisition), darn if I don't like the 1.75 MOA dot on my SRS. It is a bit big and heavier, but it's one of my favorite optics.

I'm wait and see on battery life...

From Trijicon's MRO FAQs page:
The MRO battery should last for 5 years of continual use at setting “3” (5 of 8). When left on at the brightest setting (“6”), the battery should last around 25 days. Note that extended use in extreme temperatures – either cold or hot – may reduce the battery life considerably.

BUT you know how factory claims go - I'm not too worried about battery life, though more is always better.

 

[Vernon1]

Trijicon or Orange Day Glow Paint

I have many Trijicon Sights. Some are great but some really are not.

I say are not because with many the tiny light is difficult to see at the end of the gun.

O.K I will agree with the guys who need a little light at night.

However in the light the orange day glow paint works just as good (or better)

than these very expensive sights that glow a little in the dark.

To each his own. Like the man said turn on a light installed on your weapon and be prepared to get shot.

Pistols=tritium sights

Shotguns=day glow paint

 

[Inebriated]

Comparison for comparison's sake;

Water submersibility:
T1/T2: 25m
PRO: 45m
H1/H2: 5m
MRO: 30m

Weight w/out mount:
T1/H1: 3.0 oz
PRO: 7.8 oz
T2/H2: 4.8 oz
MRO: 4.1 oz

Battery life:
T1/H1: 50k
PRO: 30k
T2/H2: 50k
MRO: 50k

Specs are good, but here's what it boils down to for me... Does it do anything practically better than Aimpoint for the cost? It's obvious that's their competition, and I only use Aimpoint so this is a very relevant question to me.... A US-made optic that's actual competition for Aimpoint is awesome, but it has to do something Aimpoint can't for me personally to abandon that loyalty.

This is my own take on the MRO (assuming expected Trijicon durability/reliability), with only my values being considered... I am not making a case for anyone but myself.

The PRO can be had with an Aimpoint QD mount for $425 all day, often times cheaper (but that's not a fair comparison to an optic that's just released). Can also be had with a LaRue mount for $518. I personally value QD ability over weight, so with basicblur's posted street price at $544 with the lower-1/3rd mount, I have to be honest... I'll take the PRO in either mount over the MRO. I change batteries once a year, 30k hours will get me there, and the PRO weighing a few ounces more just doesn't matter to me when it comes down to these two and their pricing. What I value most on an AR is QD ability. The PRO also has the benefit of utilizing any 30mm ring for mounting to other platforms.

When compared to the Micro's, I look at it more from a versatility standpoint than pure specs. First, I don't need NV or an additional 20m submersion rating... I also don't need a larger objective. The H1 is my go-to, and compared to the MRO, the glaring difference that matters to me is mounting options. The Micro can be mounted very low to handguns, shotguns, bolt guns, and, most importantly to me, AK's. We'll see what the MRO can do for other platforms, but I'm skeptical that it can mount as low as the Micro. Just a guess, but again, we'll see.

So, like I said, just my view on what it does for me... I don't really have any use for the MRO. I will probably get one anyway, if for no other reason than to support the US market, but I do genuinely think the PRO is a better deal all the way around, and the H1 has it's own place that the MRO may or may not be able to fill. I'm in no rush to change out my H1's, but it is certainly a tough competitor to the T1, though, and I look forward to real durability/reliability comparisons between the two.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Travis Haley just put up the second range review video of the MRO. Looks like a solid option so far.

Also, MRO w/Trijicon factory 1/3 mount = 5.9oz - about 0.2oz less than a T1 in a Larue mount. Probably not a game changer in terms of weight difference; but impressive.

 

[Walkalong]

Only thing they have now is a single, 2 MOA dot. I also wouldn't mind seeing a bit more in the reticle (BDC marks or EOTech type reticle) but you know how folks complain about "busy reticles"!

I'm in the "I don't like busy reticles" camp, but I don't like a small dot for all around use. A 2MOA dot is way to small for fast work at close to midrange. It has to be easy to give an expensive top of the line red dot more than one dot size.

current street prices are $493 without mount

That's a lot of money. Would I spend it for a serious gun? Yea, but it would have to be all I want in a dot. I can buy a small dot and proven Aimpoint for less than that.

This will definitely give Aimpoint buyers something to think about. I do wish Aimpoint still made the big dot (I think they were 8MOA) dots they used to have. I have one on a .38 Super and it's great for speed. I would expect to use my serious AR at close to intermediate ranges and a large dot is what I would want on it. Evidently the rest of the world likes the small dot.

 

[ECVMatt]

Tagging for further interest. I have a upper coming in about two weeks.....

 

[Zerodefect]

This is just the optic I've been waiting for. My olde Aimpoint Comp M3 2moa in a Larue cantilever mount is still my go to optic. But it blocks a bit of my FOV.

My Eotech XPS is nice, but the hologram isn't as forgiving as a red dot. And it's not too friendly in the rain.

The Aimpoint T1, T2 are nice and thin, but too small of a window. It's too easy to be outside the window when you bring the rifle up. 4moa and 8moa dots are stupid.

A giant T1 with a 2moa dot is exactly what I need. Especially if it has flip up scope covers, or a see through bikini cover. I'll wait until the Larue combo comes out. I need to remove optics alot due to humid weather. Irons rule in my area most of the year.

 

[Inebriated]

The Aimpoint T1, T2 are nice and thin, but too small of a window. It's too easy to be outside the window when you bring the rifle up. 4moa and 8moa dots are stupid.

The Micros only comes in 2 or 4 MOA, and the 4 MOA versions actually have a dot that is 3.2 MOA, according to Aimpoint.

Missing the window is a training issue.

 

[Walkalong]

4moa and 8moa dots are stupid.

They are useful for other than your needs you mean. 8 MOA is great for speed.

 

[Justin]

The only way it could be an improvement over the Aimpoint Micro is if the dot looks like a dot rather than an oblong smear to anyone who's got astigmatism.

 

[Inebriated]

Justin, my Micros have slanted dots regardless of who's looking. I don't have an astigmatism, but it's still slanted. PRO dots are perfectly round for me.

I don't think the slant is that big a deal in use, but it really is about the only upgrade that could be made. The T2's I've used were all on higher brightness in bright sunlight, so I don't know if they addressed it.

 

[strambo]

I own an H1 in a Larue QD mount and love it. That said, once these hit the streets and the QD mount options shake out, I'd go MRO if I were buying again. Larger lens for only 1 oz penalty and costs a little less.

PRO if more budget minded and don't care about the additional 3-4ozs.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

I doubt I'll be replacing any T1s; but I'll probably give the MRO a shot instead of buying another Aimpoint - especially if the price point stays where it is.

 

[OpticsPlanet]

Youcan tell it's not arfcom, because no on is "in on one".

Trijicon came in with one maybe 10 days before the release, I don't have astigmatism, but that was one sharply defined dot.

I want to say that GG&G was mentioned as having a mount in the works, as well as the ones basicblur referenced.

Mark H.

 

[basicblur]

Botach currently shows a combo deal.
Trijicon MRO with ADM QD mount (your choice of 3 different heights) for $495 delivered.

They do have sales from time to time if you can wait, but under $500 delivered for the MRO and QD mount ain't too shabby!?

Yeah, I know about Botach's 'Net reputation, but my records show I have ordered from them 40 times in the past with no problems.

YMMV

 

[Walkalong]

I really like the way that non quick release mount is made. And yes, while I don't "like it", $500ish with mount isn't bad for a top of the line red dot.

 

[basicblur]

At's some screwy pricing at Botach!?

If you wanted the non-QD mount, you'd probably be better off getting the package deal of the MRO and ADM QD mount, and ordering the non-QD mount of your choice.

Looks to me like you'd have the same amount of money in it, and have a free QD mount to boot!? (1 MRO, 1 ADM QD Mount, 1 Trijicon Screw Mount)

 

[Walkalong]

At's some screwy pricing at Botach!?

I thought so too.

I like this DD mount as well for the same reasons, but right now they only make it for the Aimpoint.

 

[Jellyfish73]

MRO totally worth it!

I believe I have made a good decision in purchasing this optic. My husband owns an aimpoint pro. I had no problem sighting it in. I love that its super light and your pretty much buying an optic that competes with the T1 for a cheaper price.

 

[taliv]

Welcome to thr!

Nice pic. Let us know how it works out for you