The Primer Shortage is OVER!
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Lou McGopher
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If prices and demand had both gone up enough, it would have encouraged manufacturers to invest in increasing production capacity.
"Price gouging" is a good thing, folks.
BTW mongoose, have you ever been to Mises.org?
freakshow10mm
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45ACPUSER, you sound just like the other guy on two big forums that talks up The Gun Stop in MN. Your sig line on other forums states the name "John" and given your love affair with TGS, I can only figure you are probably the owner trying not to act like the owner while tooting your horn. Every time a supplier or vendor is mentioned you always come in to mention TGS. Make ya wonder. Always there to harass me about everything I say no matter the topic at hand. That's OK, I have a few Internet stalkers besides yourself.
FS,
Explain how you load 1,000,000 rounds a month on a Dillon 550! Inquiring Minds Want To Know? There is not enough time!
Why are you buying from Grafs a few K at a time? When you have a SOURCE?
Stalker? Nope just an observer of FACT!
Explain how you load 1,000,000 rounds a month on a Dillon 550! Inquiring Minds Want To Know? There is not enough time!
Why are you buying from Grafs a few K at a time? When you have a SOURCE?
Stalker? Nope just an observer of FACT!
Let us do the math shall we?
1,000,000 divided by a ball park avg of 400 rounds an hour......that is 2500 hours worth of work. That does not compute......there are only 720 hours in a month. Then what about packing, labeling, shipping, ordering, QC checks, and taking care of things like sleep? Well, you see that you opened the door!
Then say it was 500K of 223 as an example that would take upwards of nearly a ton of powder......holy cow! Now, being that you posted elsewhere that YOUR SOURCE told you that there would be no more Hornady 55gr FMJ 22cal...... Or better yet where are you getting brass? When the big boys do not have any?
LOL. So, you see your assertion of needing 1,000,000 primers a month is sort of full of holes!
Then, take into account that STORING that many primers would probably be needing special consideration......and that much powder? Come on! Be real.....
There is nothing wrong with being a small business! A person has to start somewhere! But, there is something wrong with STRETCHING the FACTS......does not lend a lot of credibility!
1,000,000 divided by a ball park avg of 400 rounds an hour......that is 2500 hours worth of work. That does not compute......there are only 720 hours in a month. Then what about packing, labeling, shipping, ordering, QC checks, and taking care of things like sleep? Well, you see that you opened the door!
Then say it was 500K of 223 as an example that would take upwards of nearly a ton of powder......holy cow! Now, being that you posted elsewhere that YOUR SOURCE told you that there would be no more Hornady 55gr FMJ 22cal...... Or better yet where are you getting brass? When the big boys do not have any?
LOL. So, you see your assertion of needing 1,000,000 primers a month is sort of full of holes!
Then, take into account that STORING that many primers would probably be needing special consideration......and that much powder? Come on! Be real.....
There is nothing wrong with being a small business! A person has to start somewhere! But, there is something wrong with STRETCHING the FACTS......does not lend a lot of credibility!
freakshow10mm
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I'm using a Lee Hand Press.
My source I found is only doing this during the rush and will probably stop in a month or so. He said he buys 4 million and clears it out in 3-4 weeks and does it again. I talked to him last night and he has 1 million small pistol primers in stock.
My source I found is only doing this during the rush and will probably stop in a month or so. He said he buys 4 million and clears it out in 3-4 weeks and does it again. I talked to him last night and he has 1 million small pistol primers in stock.
Hey FS,
Do you have a seperate building for storage of the primers? and storing all that powder you would be using?
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/CIS_WSH_part55_51266_7.pdf
(j)(3) "Smokeless propellants."
(j)(3)(i) All smokeless propellants shall be stored in shipping containers specified in 49 CFR 173.93 for smokeless propellants.
(j)(3)(ii) [Reserved]
(j)(3)(iii) Commercial stocks of smokeless propellants over 20 pounds and not more than 100 pounds shall be stored in portable wooden boxes having walls of at least 1 inch nominal thickness.
(j)(3)(iv) Commercial stocks in quantities not to exceed 750 pounds shall be stored in nonportable storage cabinets having wooden walls of at least 1 inch nominal thickness. Not more than 400 pounds shall be permitted in any one cabinet.
(j)(3)(v) Quantities in excess of 750 pounds shall be stored in magazines in accordance with paragraph (c) of this section.
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(j)(4) "Small arms ammunition primers."
(j)(4)(i) Small arms ammunition primers shall not be stored except in the original shipping container in accordance with the requirements of 49 CFR 173.107 for small arms ammunition primers.
(j)(4)(ii) [Reserved]
(j)(4)(iii) Small arms ammunition primers shall be separated from flammable liquids, flammable solids as classified in 49 CFR part 172, and oxidizing materials by a fire-resistive wall of 1-hour rating or by a distance of 25 feet.
(j)(4)(iv) Not more than 750,000 small arms ammunition primers shall be stored in any one building, except as provided in paragraph (j)(4)(v) of this paragraph. Not more than 100,000 shall be stored in any one pile. Piles shall be at least 15 feet apart.
(j)(4)(v) Quantities of small arms ammunition primers in excess of 750,000 shall be stored in magazines in accordance with paragraph (c) of this section.
Do you have a seperate building for storage of the primers? and storing all that powder you would be using?
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/CIS_WSH_part55_51266_7.pdf
(j)(3) "Smokeless propellants."
(j)(3)(i) All smokeless propellants shall be stored in shipping containers specified in 49 CFR 173.93 for smokeless propellants.
(j)(3)(ii) [Reserved]
(j)(3)(iii) Commercial stocks of smokeless propellants over 20 pounds and not more than 100 pounds shall be stored in portable wooden boxes having walls of at least 1 inch nominal thickness.
(j)(3)(iv) Commercial stocks in quantities not to exceed 750 pounds shall be stored in nonportable storage cabinets having wooden walls of at least 1 inch nominal thickness. Not more than 400 pounds shall be permitted in any one cabinet.
(j)(3)(v) Quantities in excess of 750 pounds shall be stored in magazines in accordance with paragraph (c) of this section.
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(j)(4) "Small arms ammunition primers."
(j)(4)(i) Small arms ammunition primers shall not be stored except in the original shipping container in accordance with the requirements of 49 CFR 173.107 for small arms ammunition primers.
(j)(4)(ii) [Reserved]
(j)(4)(iii) Small arms ammunition primers shall be separated from flammable liquids, flammable solids as classified in 49 CFR part 172, and oxidizing materials by a fire-resistive wall of 1-hour rating or by a distance of 25 feet.
(j)(4)(iv) Not more than 750,000 small arms ammunition primers shall be stored in any one building, except as provided in paragraph (j)(4)(v) of this paragraph. Not more than 100,000 shall be stored in any one pile. Piles shall be at least 15 feet apart.
(j)(4)(v) Quantities of small arms ammunition primers in excess of 750,000 shall be stored in magazines in accordance with paragraph (c) of this section.
freakshow10mm
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My company is compliant with all federal, state, and local laws.
ljnowell
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45ACPUSER-- I thought you were a jerk before, now i think you are sad.
Even if the guy did lie, it doesnt change the fact that you have absolutely no character.
Even if the guy did lie, it doesnt change the fact that you have absolutely no character.
mike6567
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The last couple days I've been getting emails from midway saying that they've gotten primers in, CCI small rifle, small rifle mag, lg rifle and lg rifle mag. I got the emails on my iphone but by the time I got online to order them they were already sold.
LeonCarr
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A Dillon 550 in the garage? I know a guy like that 
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Just my .02,
LeonCarr
.Just my .02,
LeonCarr
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I'd like to see the high speed equipment (I love technology), can FreakShow post pictures? Also, how many people do you employee to operate the presses?
freakshow10mm
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Last few months we've been busier taking orders than loading them. Our current production capacity is fairly small at a bit less than 36 million rounds annually. My company isn't on the radar as far as the other established companies go. Freakshow Mfg LLC has been around a little over a year now. Freakshow Bullets was around a year before that but I shut that down and closed the business. Was a good experience but a costly one.:banghead:
Due to the component shortages, we are down to 2 employees plus myself. My wife helps pack the orders and I do everything else since she works a straight 40 elsewhere and helps out when needed with the business. One employee mainly processes and inspects brass the other helps me load it.
Due to the component shortages, we are down to 2 employees plus myself. My wife helps pack the orders and I do everything else since she works a straight 40 elsewhere and helps out when needed with the business. One employee mainly processes and inspects brass the other helps me load it.
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I can't really tell if this is THR or The Children's Hour.
Among other things, it is quite easy to "call someone out" without being rude, gross and Low Road while doing so.
Enough. This is mostly off-topic silliness...
Among other things, it is quite easy to "call someone out" without being rude, gross and Low Road while doing so.
Enough. This is mostly off-topic silliness...
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