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The Revenant movie that was released at the end of 2015 was billed as being the replacement of the Jeremiah Johnson movie in the hearts of modern day Mountain Men and Black Powder lovers. And while I liked the Revenant it didn't in any way replace JJ as my go to Mountain Man movie. It didn't even get close to the sillier "The Mountain Men" with Charlton Heston and Brian Keith.

The gun battle at the beginning was first rate. But knowing the real story I was disappointed at how it was rewritten. I didn't understand. The real story was a great tail of survival and determination. You couldn't improve on the historical facts and the movie didn't. The fact that I don't care for Leonardo DeCaprio didn't even have any bearing on my disappointment in this show.

I would have thought by now It might have been added to Netflix or I would have seen the DVD for sale at Walmart but so far nothing. But to be fair I haven't looked very hard for it either.

So with the passing of time what do you guys think of the movie?
 
Rodwa if you can see it cheap or better yet for free its OK. Like I stated the battle at the beginning is really good. A few other scenes are good. But the fact that the entire story from the season the attack happened to the end scene where Fitzgerald was killed in revenge just ruined the story. But the battle scene is almost worth the price of the movie just to see that part.
 
I saw the movie on TV a couple of months ago. I liked it but the original book was better. Surprised they didn't stick with the actual story as it was better than what they came up with. As I remember he was finally killed several years later in a battle with Indians.
 
It was a remake of "Man in the Wilderness" which was a great, but somewhat slow moving film. I didn't really care for Jeremiah Johnson so I'll probably get flamed for that. Didn't he pick up a .31 caliber "Hawken"? I could be wrong.
 
I liked it and bought the DVD. The story was good, the acting was excellent. Tom Hardy does well as either hero or villain. They went to a lot of trouble to portray the harshness of life back then. The prop and research folks deserve a lot of credit. But like Hostiles and Bone Tomahawk, it's not one I want to watch over and over again. The Mountain Men, on the other hand, I've seen at least 20 times in the last 10yrs.

Fiction or non-fiction, books are not movie scripts. They always have to be rewritten/adapted for the silver screen. Movies are also not for historical reference or study, they have to appeal to the masses. So I never understood judging them like they were a documentary.
 
A lot of it was filmed an hour from where I live. I know a few of the guys working as extras and all of them say that Leo was a complete jackwad. When he went into his rant about experiencing climate change to the media and all of the climate worshippers believed him he left out a small detail of experiencing a “Chinook” which has been happening here forever.
It could have been a great movie if they would have left out all the political crap.
 
I recall the movie as being decent, but I wouldn’t go out of my way to see it again. The Indian attack scene was incredible. I am not sure I recall much about the rest of the movie aside from the bear attack being kinda boring.
 
Typical hollywood revisionist history. Poorly told poorly acted.

JJ was better, but still a poor adaptation.

MM was just what it was supposed to be. Tongue in cheek entertainment
 
PapaG said:
It was a remake of "Man in the Wilderness" which was a great, but somewhat slow moving film. I didn't really care for Jeremiah Johnson so I'll probably get flamed for that. Didn't he pick up a .31 caliber "Hawken"? I could be wrong.
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The "30 caliber Hawken" in JJ was more than likely a screen writer mistaking a reference, probably from the original book/stories of the era, where caliber was often referred to as the number of balls cast per pound of lead.
 
Shanghai McCoy said:
The "30 caliber Hawken" in JJ was more than likely a screen writer mistaking a reference, probably from the original book/stories of the era, where caliber was often referred to as the number of balls cast per pound of lead.
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That makes sense as it would be about a .53 cal, pretty common for Jake and Sam.
 
The "30 caliber Hawken" in JJ was more than likely a screen writer mistaking a reference, probably from the original book/stories of the era, where caliber was often referred to as the number of balls cast per pound of lead.
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I made that same point on another forum and was told flat out I was wrong. But they did rate caliber by balls to the pound. We still do it with shotguns except for the 410. And 410 is the caliber of the barrel not the ball weight. It would be a 67 gauge
 
Don't really care about the story, I want to see Revenant for the scenery, setting, and action. Have also wanted to see The Grey for years, but it's never on TV, nor do I care to get Netflix or Hulu to watch it. Yeah, Grey isn't set during black powder times, but it looked like a hell of a man vs nature/beast survival movie.
 
Felt like I wasted two hours of my life watching that awful film. An attempt at historicity might have been somewhat redeeming, but it was overall a very bad movie. Why DeCaprio won the Oscar for this one and not for other roles where he really acted, well, that's beyond me. I doubt I will ever sit through it again - I likely would watch "The Patriot" again first, and that movie was worse than bad.
 
J-Bar said:
The photography was wonderful. So Hollywood did not render history faithfully. Who is surprised?
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Exactly.

Tom Hardy was excellent. DiCaprio won an academy award. The movie won a pile of awards. Which normally I don't go by or care about, but there's a reason it did. The photography and minimal cgi (just the bear?) Is just plain gorgeous. The story isnt faithful but screenwriters change things to suit thier vision. It's part of Hollywood. I liked it and bought it right when it was released. I've watched it after a Jack and coke a time or two since. Good movie.
 
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I was disappointed in it as well. As a history piece it was lacking, the bear was playing with the actor. They did have lots of smooth bore trade guns.
 
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