The Revenant

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I look at it this way, it's a movie! It's Entertainment, Fiction loosely based on fact.
Patocazador said:
Man in the Wilderness was fairly good except for dragging the stupid ship all over the mountains. Who needs a ship in the mountains???? :scrutiny:
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A Ship in the Wilderness you ask! See "Fitzcaraldo" :)
 
Wasn't too bad a movie. Entertaining to me but then I didn't watch it as if it was a highly researched documentary. JJ and Mountain Men got old after the 4th time I watched em. Entertaining for the 1st couple times but after that they were pretty goofy.
 
I liked The Revenant. I also liked Man in the Wilderness. OTH, I shut off Jeremiah Johnson after seeing the grizzly running after the old trapper who was leading the bear to JJ in the cabin. JJ is dated, and not in a good way.
 
I suffered through that movie 2 years ago. The one thing I think that would have made the movie better would be to have another bear attack our hero at the very end.
 
Seriously hope nobody takes ideas from the film to heart, as far as wilderness survival goes.
In deep north country, immersion in freezing water, out in the wild = death from exposure.
Wandering around in the north winter without very warm headgear =death from exposure.

While the film was not Jeremiah Johnson by a mile, it was, IMO, as PainlessWolf said, a good period piece.
 
Ratshooter said:
The Revenant movie that was released at the end of 2015 was billed as being the replacement of the Jeremiah Johnson movie in the hearts of modern day Mountain Men and Black Powder lovers. And while I liked the Revenant it didn't in any way replace JJ as my go to Mountain Man movie. It didn't even get close to the sillier "The Mountain Men" with Charlton Heston and Brian Keith.

The gun battle at the beginning was first rate. But knowing the real story I was disappointed at how it was rewritten. I didn't understand. The real story was a great tail of survival and determination. You couldn't improve on the historical facts and the movie didn't. The fact that I don't care for Leonardo DeCaprio didn't even have any bearing on my disappointment in this show.

I would have thought by now It might have been added to Netflix or I would have seen the DVD for sale at Walmart but so far nothing. But to be fair I haven't looked very hard for it either.

So with the passing of time what do you guys think of the movie?
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I haven't seen The Revenant yet so I can't comment. What I do know is that "Jeremiah Johnson" was just another Hollywood story very loosely based on a man whose real life deeds would terrify the limp wristed writers in Tinsel Town (as well as most of the rest of us) and I expect the Revenant to be in the same vein. Do some research on Liver Eatin' Johnson and go to the Buffalo Bill museum in Cody to have a look at his knife. I knew a fellow in the '70's who was at the roundevous filmed in the "The Mountain Men". He told me that Heston was a great guy, Keith was not, and that the scene where the drunks, (real drunks!) tipped over the vender stalls was real. It was an accident that was too good to edit out of the movie.

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Man in the Wilderness was more accurate. There were some small errors by the film editors. In a few scenes the frizzen was flipped forward. Story wise Hugh Glass didn't kill the men who abandoned him. I enjoyed the flick but to do so I have to ignore history.
 
If you want scenery, rent a travel documentary. The Revenant was typical Hollywood laziness....., good idea, bad execution. I understood the director was trying to demonstrate the fear generated by the attacking Indians with the arrows coming in without anybody seeing who was shooting, but the wide open distances where either they HAD to have been standing or the arrows would not have reached the white men with that force, let alone moving targets... I mean CRAP the Indians didn't shoot Henry VIII's 150 lb. draw longbows. And the director could've done a moving fight in the woods without the bull-excrement, and gotten probably a better result.

LD
 
Well I asked in the original post what you guys thought of the Revenant movie and I guess I know now. Some liked it. Some didn't and most liked some parts but not others. Most didn't like the rewrite of the history and wish they would have stuck closer to the true story. Most times the truth is better than the over played, over produced Hollywood BS.

If it comes on Netflix I would definitely watch it again. I know its not going to end like it was supposed to and they will make Hugh Glass out to be a revenge killer. At least I know better. And thats part of my beef. Those that didn't know the real story will carry away a lie about a man who doesn't deserve a lie told about him. A lot learn history from what they see in the movies. They should have at least warned the viewer that it was a story that just used historical figures but not historical truth.

And I know the JJ movie wasn't accurate. I read the book Liver Eatin' Johnson and have been told it was a pack of untrue stories too.
 
Ratshooter said:
They should have at least warned the viewer that it was a story that just used historical figures but not historical truth.
And I know the JJ movie wasn't accurate. I read the book Liver Eatin' Johnson and have been told it was a pack of untrue stories too.
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History is written by the winners or, in this case, the screenwriters.
 
I saw this movie something like one year ago. In the base of that story was much mater to do something really pleasant and interesting.
The photo is good, but the movie and the subject is flatly treated, it was a good recreational moment but not a masterpiece of cinematography....

Too bad...
 
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