The Springfield XD Torture Test

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n00bdave,

So you got the info from their web site...the one that advertises their guns. If you haven't had a chance to look at and at least hold a Mk23, you should try it.

Let's just say it's pretty large.

Who else carries them?
 
However, I would be interested to see what would happen if they put the weapon in a 30-50 degree below zero environment and then test fired it.
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I think I read somewhere that after having the XD in that enviroment, it fired but the Mag didn't drop free, you had to kind of help it out. Something to do with the plastic frame. I don't care about that, if its ever 30 below zero I'm just not going out. The only complaint I have about theXD is lack of parts, unless something changed you can't buy an extractor, fireing pin, ejector and so on, you have to send it to SA and they will do it. 50.00 shipping for a 20.00 part doesn't sound good, even if they may eventually reimburse you.
 
Re: Redhat's ???

I am no expert on who uses what. I don't even know if someone "in the business" would tell you what they use. Like you said, the Mk 23 is pretty bulky...maybe too much so. That is why they came up with the combat tactical. But does anyone actually use it? Beats me. But if they don't use either H&K pistol, what do they use? Sigs? I have heard that before from somewhat reputable sources. 1911's? Maybe.

Perhaps the only reliable clue would be that the Mk 23 has USSOCOM on the slide (the mil version, not the commercial one). My guess would be, whatever they need for the job, they use. If you really want to know more, there's Wiki and Google.

But now I have said too much and sound like a H&k fanboy.:uhoh:
 
I've put about 5,000 rounds through my XD-40 Service without a single malfunction and it eats every kind of ammo I through at it without complaint. I put close to a thousand rounds through it over four ten-hour days at Front Sight without cleaning it and it never so much as hiccupped, dispite the fact that it was full of grit by the end of the class.
 
atomd said:
But that also doesn't take away from the fact that there is more talk about the XD in general than there is HK talk. Look at the front cover of all the magazines....you see way more XDs than HK. Especially the 45. Look at all the writing on the forums about the XD. They are a hot item that generates a lot of communication in general. More talk right now than HK. So you will see more people raving about them....and on the other hand you will see more people complaining.

I have to disagree with you on the way people treat their belongings. The more people pay for things the better they tend to treat them...in general. We're not talking about the idiots who like to destroy expensive things for fun. Around here an HK costs WAY more than most other polymer pistols sell for. Double what some of them sell for. Have you ever seen someone being reckless with something only to here the owner say "be careful with that! It's worth X amount of dollars"! It's just human nature to value things more that we work more for. If you can afford a $5000 leather sofa you can afford to have the leather cleaned properly. This is like the AR vs AK thing. I'd bet you dollars to donuts that you'll find WAY more people who have never cleaned their AK than people who have never cleaned their AR.
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Wow great. I've never cleaned my ak! I've never cleaned any of my plastic guns either. I've cleaned my les Baer though. I went camping this weekend and took my xd because I knew it was going to rain. I can count on that gun. I can count on all my glocks too. The only jams I've had were ammo problems. I would never shoot those guns in a competition either.
 
my xd has over 16,500rds and still going strong. however that doesn't mean i don't clean it and maintain it properly.
 
So I was wondering, I have an XD-9 and really enjoy it, but why does a torture test like this matter? What would I be doing to my XD?
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In my case, that's why I have the thing (a .45).

As others have said, it's not a target match gun that can take out the X ring with no flyers at 25 yards with each magazine. It's not a presentation grade 1911 or 1873 Colt to sit in a velvet-lined box.

I got it because I wanted a pistol that would be as practical as a good electric drill.

Therefore, I want to know that I can use it like one, not baby it like most guns that I like.
 
You want a torture test, just see which ones fire wolf ammo. The only handgun I have encountered that will fire wolf ammo is the glock. The ruger will fire it, but not reliably if it is limp wristed. Yes I know, jump down my throat for firing wolf ammo in a handgun. But the glock 17 will do it. I even kicked nasty So Cal canyon sand into the glock action. It still fired wolf ammo, although with a few stoppages. When I pointed this out to my friends (who saw me do it from a safe distance), they said"yes, but you would never have tried that with anything but a glock". Go figure.
 
I've run countless rounds of wolf 230 fmj through my XD 45 compact...never one problem, and I don't have to pick up the "brass".
 
"You want a torture test, just see which ones fire wolf ammo. "

My xd 45 has eaten wolf and worse without issue.
 
Beldegg You want a torture test, just see which ones fire wolf ammo.
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I have 3 XD's in various calibers and I have yet to find an ammo they won't eat.

I've owned 4 total over the last year and all were new except the .45 Service I just traded for and it only had 65 rds through it when I got it (I traded a Glock 30 for it).

Out of all of them I've had 1 FTF and that was at the first trip to the range. Since then all have worked flawlessly. There's nothing wrong with Glocks, I just prefer the XD.

As far as the others, they may be good guns but I like the features and the price of the XD line.

I've heard some say the XD's aren't as accurate as brand X but I don't see it. As long as you are loading them with quality ammo they are plenty accurate for me. In fact they are pretty darn accurate with the cheap stuff.

For the most part the accuracy lies with the shooter more than the gun. The last time at the range 3 of us were shooting quick fire drills at 25 yards and my XD .40 SC was more accurate than the 2 full size S&W .40's that were there. Does that mean the XD is better? :scrutiny: No! It means I was the better shot on that given day.

In the end we all have a personal preference in all aspects of our lives. It's kind of like women. How boring would it be if all women had the same facial features, body shape and hair color?

:)
 
As others have said, it's not a target match gun that can take out the X ring with no flyers at 25 yards with each magazine
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- Armed Bear

i think Rob Leatham and Team Springfield would disagree..

both the XD and XDm have match grade barrels.. the barrels are manufactured in Austria by Bohler-Stahl.. it's how the barrels are fitted that determines the "match grade" accuracy..
 
Redlg155 said:
I don't quite understand the usefullness of the freezing in a block of ice test.

However, I would be interested to see what would happen if they put the weapon in a 30-50 degree below zero environment and then test fired it.
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I did this the other day, it was -45F and I ran about 5 mags of WWB plinking ammo through my XDm 40, worked flawlessly.

Although I did have serious qualms for the first Mag, it had to be done though, I've been a little concerned about how it would work at 40 below.
 
That's just breakfast for a USP
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Hahahaha.

USP's are good guns, but they're no where near the sturdiest. Case in point, a friend of mine and I we're trying to use up some reloads that wouldn't run in a Browning hi-power. These were .40 S&W with 150 gr. plated pills.

Both of us had case head separations from firing slightly out of battery. It slightly bent the extractor on my S&W 4006 (which was a 12 year old Wyoming Fish & Game trade-in when I bought it.....6 years ago), which I later removed and straightened. It BROKE the extractor on his 4 month old USP.

Again, I've never called the USP or other HK guns junk, but there are tougher pistols out there. Not sure the XD is one of them, though.

Man, I just realized how old this thread is :banghead:
 
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It's kind of like women. How boring would it be if all women had the same facial features, body shape and hair color?
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I'd say that depends on what their facial features, body shape, and hair color were :p
 
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