The UN 's got to be luving this...

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The Pres has named Sec Bolton as new Amb to the UN ! This is the same
Sec Bolten that told the UN in no uncertain terms that the US would NOT
abide by the small arms treaty of 2000 the UN tried to stuff down the worlds
throats. If I remember right, the UN wanted to take over world control of
small arms which if had happened would of put us under the UN's control
= no private firearms ownership, with the UN being the worlds police and
army and ONLY the UN having access to firearms..

Please correct me if I'm misguided on this, but I'm pretty sure it was Sec
Bolton who poked a hole in the anti-gun front's balloon or at least parlayed
the new Admin's stance at that 2000 conference...Anyway >
http://www.yahoo.com/_ylh=X3oDMTEwdnZjMjFhBF9TAzI3MTYxNDkEdGVzdAMwBHRtcGwDaW5kZXgtY3Nz/s/232149
 
Same John R Bolton: US Position on the UN Small Arms Conf July 9, 2001

We do not support measures limiting trade in SA/LW solely to governments. This proposal, we believe, is both conceptually and practically flawed. It is so broad that in the absence of a clear definition of small arms and light weapons, it could be construed as outlawing legitimate international trade in all firearms. Violent non-state groups at whom this proposal is presumably aimed are unlikely to obtain arms through authorized channels. Many of them continue to receive arms despite being subject to legally-binding UNSC embargoes. Perhaps most important, this proposal would preclude assistance to an oppressed non-state group defending itself from a genocidal government. Distinctions between governments and non-governments are irrelevant in determining responsible and irresponsible end-users of arms.
 
So, basically, Bush appointed a UN ambassador who isn't affraid to tell the UN where they can put their proposals for telling US citizens what to do? Great. Sounds like a big "FU" to the UN? :D
 
I don't know how many of you get the very lefty FSTV(Amy Goodman etc.) on their satellite disc but somehow it is on mine. Last p.m. I watched good ole lefty Walter Chronkite being intervied by good ole Sam Donaldson(How in heck anyone could watch this interview and not agree that these so called journalists are entirely lefty biased in beyond me). Chronkite said the USA must someday(for Peace in the World) accept that the UN must become stronger. Must have a judiciary, legislature and Armed forces and of coarse this means we would give up Sovernity. I could not believe he said such and the crowd went wild with clapping and hollering. I'm scared. :what:
 
no private firearms ownership, with the UN being the worlds police and army and ONLY the UN having access to firearms..
Holy shnikies, that's scary.
Not to worry, it's also wildly inaccurate. IANSA (or to be more accurate, Dr.Peters) would like no private firearms ownership; but IANSA is merely an NGO, same as the NRA. Both IANSA and the NRA are recognised by the UN, both get to present their arguments. Neither gets to dictate policy to the UN and the UN's own charter does not permit it to dictate internal policy to any nation, and US law does not permit any foreign body to dictate policy to the US. In other words, getting worried about the UN coming to take away your duck-hunting gun is pure paranoia.
 
Thanks, I found it over on the protest warrior site.
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accept that the UN must become stronger. Must have a judiciary, legislature and Armed forces and of coarse this means we would give up Sovernity
I guess it's time to post this pic again. =D
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In other words, getting worried about the UN coming to take away your duck-hunting gun is pure paranoia.
All that's good to hear.
 
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no private firearms ownership, with the UN being the worlds police and army and ONLY the UN having access to firearms..

Holy shnikies, that's scary.

Not to worry, it's also wildly inaccurate. IANSA (or to be more accurate, Dr.Peters) would like no private firearms ownership; but IANSA is merely an NGO, same as the NRA. Both IANSA and the NRA are recognised by the UN, both get to present their arguments. Neither gets to dictate policy to the UN and the UN's own charter does not permit it to dictate internal policy to any nation, and US law does not permit any foreign body to dictate policy to the US. In other words, getting worried about the UN coming to take away your duck-hunting gun is pure paranoia.
Thanks for getting the meeting back then cleared up. I remember the tidal
wave of e-mail alerts from the NRA asking to contact the UN and and letting
them know how we Americans thought about that small arms proposal. I don't
know how many times I e-mailed the UN, but it seemed more than 10..

I'm just happy with the President's pick.
 
I'm liking htis guy already...

Reaction to Bush's nomination of Bolton

Associated Press

Reaction to President Bush's nomination of John R. Bolton to be U.S. ambassador to the United Nations:

_ "At a time when President Bush has recognized we need to begin repairing our damaged relations with the rest of the world, he nominates someone with a long history of being opposed to working cooperatively with other nations." - Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

_ "If the president is serious about reaching out to the world, why would he choose someone who has expressed such disdain for working with our allies? ... Quite simply, Mr. Bolton's nomination carries with it baggage we cannot afford." - Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.

_ "For myself, I have several contacts with him, I know that we can work together. We have different views but also we have many things in common. ... I hope that once he's here he will have a deeper perception of what the U.N. is about." - China's U.N. Ambassador Wang Guangya.

_ "We have all kinds of people in the United Nations. At the end we end up always with consensual views. (Former U.N. Ambassador John) Danforth was not a diplomat and he came here and he did an excellent job. So you don't have to be a career diplomat to be successful at the United Nations."_ Algeria's U.N. Ambassador Abdallah Baali.

_ "I think any nomination, any designation, is to send a message. I don't know what is the message." - Argentina's U.N. Ambassador Cesar Mayoral.
 
Let those 'weapons inspectors' come anywhere near my guns.. I'll show 'em some good old mass destruction. :D


This guy in the UN is going to drive the leftists absolutely nuts. A man who says what he thinks and makes sense?? INCONCEIVABLE!
 
I know for a fact that mil-surp, steel core 7.62x54R will go right through a modern GI helmet. I have no reason to think that a blue helmet is any tougher.

In fact, I just ordered some of this ammo from AIM Surplus for a great price. Fairly clean and non-corrosive. Good stuff!
 
I have 4 rules that guide whether I like someone or not politically

Does the Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid like him?
Does Sen. John Kerry like him?
Does China's U.N. Ambassador Wang Guangya like him?
Does Algeria's U.N. Ambassador Abdallah Baali like him?

If no to these 4, he's OK in my book
 
Bolton Known to Some as the Un-Diplomat

The U.N. ambassador nominee speaks his mind freely. His stern messages have won him powerful admirers in the administration.

By Paul Richter
Times Staff Writer

March 8, 2005

WASHINGTON — Diplomats from six countries were ready to begin long-awaited talks on North Korea's nuclear program in July 2003 when U.S. arms control official John R. Bolton unexpectedly showed up in Seoul for a speech on the secretive regime.

Bolton criticized Pyongyang in harsh and personal terms, prompting the North Koreans to denounce him as "scum," and leading diplomats to fear that the sensitive talks would be called off.

In more than two decades in government, the 56-year-old Bolton has regularly served up messages that ignored diplomatic niceties. He has unsettled colleagues when he strayed from the administration's position. But he has won powerful admirers, including Vice President Dick Cheney, who once said Bolton deserved "any job he wants" in the Bush administration.

"Diplomacy is not an end [in] itself if it does not advance U.S. interests," Bolton has repeatedly said. He proudly keeps a bronzed hand grenade in his office to show his pride at his reputation as a bomb thrower.

"He's a man who knows his mind and speaks it freely," said Helle Dale, an admirer who is head of national security policy at the conservative Heritage Foundation in Washington.

If he is confirmed as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, she predicted, Bolton will adopt an approach similar to Jeanne Kirkpatrick, the tough-talking U.S. ambassador to the world body from 1981 to 1985.

"And there may be some trepidation at the United Nations," Dale added.

In his current role as undersecretary of State for arms control, the department's No. 4 job, he has refused to yield regarding countries that the administration believes are building unconventional weapons programs, including North Korea and Iran.

Once asked why he opposed offering incentives to North Korea to abandon its nuclear weapons program, Bolton said: "I don't do carrots."

He has warned of threats from foreign governments when others in the administration didn't concur. In 2002, Bolton delivered a stern speech warning that Fidel Castro was beginning a germ weapon program.

Other administration officials immediately sought to soften the warning; some intelligence officials made clear that they had no information about such a threat.

Some nonproliferation specialists have been particularly critical of Bolton's strategy, in which he confronts some countries with purported evidence of attempts to acquire nuclear and biological weapons, then tries to persuade allies to support U.S. efforts to isolate them.

"John Bolton has been totally unapologetic about his radical prescription for dealing with the proliferation threat," Joseph Cirincione of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace has said. "The main problem is that it hasn't worked anywhere."

In his current job, Bolton has also battled international organizations that could wield authority over Americans — most notably, the International Criminal Court.

He was also one of the administration's strongest advocates for dumping the 1972 Antiballistic Missile Treaty with Russia, which prevented construction of an American antimissile shield.

Some who have worked with Bolton believe that he has wielded considerable influence over U.S. policy, considering the limits of his rank.

Charles L. Pritchard, a former U.S. special envoy to North Korea, said Bolton had learned to work with colleagues of similar views — such as National Security Council aide Robert Joseph and Pentagon policy chief Douglas J. Feith — to toughen administration positions on national security policy.

"He was indirectly influential," said Pritchard, now a visiting scholar at Brookings Institution in Washington. "He fed information to people in other agencies, and they reformulated it under their names."

A senior member of the Bush legal team during the Florida presidential ballot recount of 2000, Bolton has enjoyed strong support from conservatives, including former Sen. Jesse Helms (R-N.C.), a onetime chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Helms described Bolton as "the kind of man I would want to stand with at Armageddon."

Bolton was assistant secretary of State for international organizations from 1989 to 1993, during the administration of President George H.W. Bush. He was an assistant attorney general from 1985 to 1989, during the Reagan administration.

A native of Baltimore, Bolton graduated from Yale Law School, where he made friends with future Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Despite his outspokenness, friends describe him as a polite man who tries to return phone calls, and who likes to go to bed by 8 p.m. so he can rise at 4 a.m.

One senior administration official denied reports of friction between Bolton and other officials in the State Department when Colin L. Powell was secretary.

"We may take him sometimes with a grain of salt, but most people … think of him as somebody who is a nice guy, extraordinarily smart, and has strong views," the official said.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...,0,4640874,print.story?coll=la-home-headlines
 
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