Theives steal HK MP5 from cops

[Houdini]

LAKEWOOD, COLO. --
The Jefferson County SWAT team is missing a dangerous weapon -- a sub-machine gun capable of firing 30 rounds in less than three seconds.

A relaxing night out for SWAT team members last Wednesday ended with a vehicle break-in, and the disappearance of an HK MP5.

The thief or thieves also got away with ammunition, bulletproof vests and other tactical gear used by the SWAT team.

Jefferson County Sheriff Ted Mink told 7NEWS, “It happened. It’s unfortunate. Hopefully, we can resolve it.”

Lakewood police interviewed employees of Jackson’s All-American Sports Grill at 675 Kipling and took interior surveillance tape from the restaurant.
So far, five persons of interest have been identified. One of those five has spoken with detectives.

The MP5 hasn't been sold in gun stores since the late 1980’s, and is now only available to law enforcement.

The SWAT team member is a 14-year veteran of the Jefferson County Sheriff’s department and a four-and-a-half year veteran of the Special Weapons And Tactics squad.

He is not on leave and is using a replacement weapon.
Mink said SWAT officers often carry their weapons and tactical gear, in order to respond quickly to threats, such as the Platte Canyon High School shooting in September.

“And I would hate to be the person that says, well, you go there but don’t take your equipment. Or, leave your equipment at home," he added.
While it doesn't appear that the deputy was violating any policy, .
Mink told 7NEWS they will look at how the weapon was being stored in the vehicle to determine if any policy changes are warranted.

Are not the weapons supposed to be locked up in their vehicle?:banghead:

 

[Exmasonite]

a sub-machine gun capable of firing 30 rounds in less than three seconds.

so they will probably conclude that this thing could kill "30 people" in "3 seconds". hahaha.

 

[hankdatank1362]

Yeah, but unless it's bolted down, someone could steal it pretty quick.

Actually, bolting it down wouldn't even stop a pro.

 

[Nightcrawler]

Way to be on the ball, guys. Seriously.

 

[mbt2001]

It seems that this has been happening a lot lately... SWAT / Police Officers getting their cars / houses broken into and weapons, sometimes full auto weapons, getting onto the street.

As I have said, the sad thing is that this or one of the other automatic weapons stolen at another hiest is going to be used in the commission of a crime and the damn Brady's are going to say "SEE!!! WE TOLD YOU!!!"

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

 

[jlbraun]

Another one of the "Only Ones".

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

Another one of the "Only Ones".

I don't get it.

 

[jlbraun]

The "Only Ones" refers to the infamous instance of a DEA agent shooting himself in the leg after saying the now-famous line "I'm the only one in this room professional enough to handle this Glock .40" (BANG)

Here's a link to some more stories.

 

[PILMAN]

If the citizens don't have guns, looks like the BG's will just steal from the police.

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

The "Only Ones" refers to the infamous instance of a DEA agent shooting himself in the leg after saying the now-famous line "I'm the only one in this room professional enough to handle this Glock .40" (BANG)

Here's a link to some more stories.

And how does that pertain to this?

 

[Kaylee]

I don't think it implies any kind of incompetence on the part of the officers in question. Certainly, every cop car I've seen has the longarms either in the trunk or bolted to a solid rail in the cabin. In fact, I'd say it was prolly secured better that the trunk guns of most of our membership... otherwise why would so many advise keeping cheap replacable arms in a vehicle in case of theft?

(Not that I'm saying locking an SKS or suchlike in the trunk is a foolhardy or irresponsible thing to do - quite the reverse. Just that having the same standard for us and the peace officers we employ goes both ways sometimes. )

That said.. it does sure put the lie to the Brady--ish claim that we'd all be safer if only the cops had weapons. Bad guys are going to get them regardless.. case in point.

-K

 

[foghornl]

Hmmmm..........

Police car, probably marked w/lights/logos, etc, parked at a Sports Bar-N-Grill joint. . . .


yessir.....had the "Guns & Stuff Inside....Please take them" signs all over it.

 

[MD_Willington]

a sub-machine gun capable of firing 30 rounds in less than three seconds.

ALL BY ITSELF


And thats not all folks... you can use it to club baby seals in the frigid Canadian North when the ammo runs out

 

[mbt2001]

HAHAHAHAHA

 

[Justin]

Well now, this certainly makes me wonder if the proposal to ban possession of guns in cars in the state of Colorado would be applied to cops as well.

 

[sterling180]

a sub-machine gun capable of firing 30 rounds in less than three seconds.

Similar comment by David Jason,on the mystery show "A Touch Of Frost",when an Armed Response cop is shot dead and is seen floating in the river,under the railway bridge and the gunman takes the mp5,from the corpse-then Frost panics.

Honestly,how can those police officers allow theives to gain the better of them,by giving then every opportunity to steal guns and tactical gear? To make matters worse,they are regarded as an elite group,the Swat team,or police special forces-and this happens.Fools.Special Weaponless buffoons,is more of an appropriate title now.

They lecture people,on burglary preventions and how to secure your home sensibly and yet they couldn't secure,their own guns and gear.

The MP5 hasn't been sold in gun stores since the late 1980’s, and is now only available to law enforcement.

Oh,dear,I don't think that this is even worth talking about.Ever heard of the civillian variant,the H&K 94,or I think that is what it was called.Stupid media persons:just think that they had an expensive college education and they write such blatent trash,like that.

 

[jlbraun]

sterling180, I think what the article meant was that new MP5's cannot be sold to civilians since 1986.

 

[romma]

If the citizens don't have guns, looks like the BG's will just steal from the police.

I met a Police officer from Springfield,MA a couple of years ago that said he quit the force there because criminals would pop out from behind a building, and bonk them with bricks or whatever and take their firearms. He ended up going to some small town force in the middle of Nowhere for safety.

 

[mavracer]

jlbraun

mp5"s could not be sold to civilians since firearms act of 1935 banning fully automatics

 

[rmhymel]

You're thinking of the National Firearms Act and it was in 1934. It doesn't ban automatics, it just makes the process a pain to deal with. There was a ban on newly manufactured mg's in 1986.

 

[sterling180]

sterling180, I think what the article meant was that new MP5's cannot be sold to civilians since 1986.

Oh,I see,right then-those were actual Mp5s and not civillian variants,but ignorant people,still muddle the two types up,though.

 

[Shaughn Leayme]

I had a cruiser gun rack installed in my pickup for several years, both keyed and electric lock systems and I can tell you that to most, it would present a serious impediment to your average crook, but if they were motivated and had tools and some basic knowledge, it would take a couple minutes longer and they would have a 12 gauge pump.

The few tactical team officers that I knew, had similar locking systems bolted solid in the trunks of their cruisers and the same applies.

You can take just about any reasonable precaution you can think about, short of carrying the thing with you everywhere you go and someone can still overcome them.

 

[GaryL]

The Jefferson County SWAT team is missing a dangerous weapon -- a sub-machine gun capable of firing 30 rounds in less than three seconds.

Out of ammo in less than 3 seconds?

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

Well now, this certainly makes me wonder if the proposal to ban possession of guns in cars in the state of Colorado would be applied to cops as well.

Maybe it should ONLY apply to cops
They have built in locking shotgun racks to protect the precious $350 pump gun but leave the submachine guns laying on the back seat or tossed in the trunk.

 

[Kaylee]

For now, let's back off the guy, eh? The original article does say it was a vehicle break-in, so it's not like he left it on the seat with the door open saying "come get me."

Now yeah, if we're talking Mr. Professional opening up his leg in front of a class, then reaching for an AR - that's one thing. I'm totally with you there. But ALL the info we have so far is that the vehicle was BROKEN INTO.

So lets hold off judging the guy until we get more info, eh?
Unless everyone here that's ever left an arm in a car did MORE than locking it up?

-K

And actually - I was impressed that they got the "late 80's" bit right for civilian-legal new manufactured SMGs. That's better fact-checking than I'm used to hearing from media.