They worry about cops too.
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Sam1911
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What a non-story. (Not the OP's post, the story itself.)
Officer, in uniform, does something smart and folks are "concerned" enough to get in the paper over it.
I think the right phrase (... my southern brothers will have to correct my pronunciation, here...) is, "Awwww, bless their hearts!"
Officer, in uniform, does something smart and folks are "concerned" enough to get in the paper over it.
I think the right phrase (... my southern brothers will have to correct my pronunciation, here...) is, "Awwww, bless their hearts!"
It's interesting that it's ok for him to carry his rifle to keep it secure but if a citizen does that it's considered "deviant" behavior as was referenced in another thread. Suppose a citizen made the same statement about securing his weapon. He would have been told by many, even on this forum, that he should have just locked it in his trunk.
Sam1911
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While I'm pretty sympathetic to your point there are several things to consider:
1) This is a law-enforcement officer, in uniform, with his duty weapon he's required to have with him -- AND he had a broken trunk and it seems would not have carried it in with him without that very clear need/special circumstance. With LEO vehicles being a regular target for gun thefts when unsecured and unattended, he probably didn't feel he had much choice. This wasn't a political act of some type.
2) His uniform makes it clear to onlookers that he's on the side of the angels (one assumes) and "reads" as part of a fairly logical picture. While it is a bit unusual for a LEO to be armed with a long-gun on an average day, he's not way out of a context the average person "gets" without a lot of explanation.
3) Visibly armed cops are not a group under a lot of public pressure to be legislated out of existence. He really isn't risking any sort of social or legislative censure of himself or his agency or his peers by appearing this way. Some poor soul might get a little flustered at seeing his big gun, but there's not a darned thing they or any group of their pals can do about it, no matter how much action they demand.
1) This is a law-enforcement officer, in uniform, with his duty weapon he's required to have with him -- AND he had a broken trunk and it seems would not have carried it in with him without that very clear need/special circumstance. With LEO vehicles being a regular target for gun thefts when unsecured and unattended, he probably didn't feel he had much choice. This wasn't a political act of some type.
2) His uniform makes it clear to onlookers that he's on the side of the angels (one assumes) and "reads" as part of a fairly logical picture. While it is a bit unusual for a LEO to be armed with a long-gun on an average day, he's not way out of a context the average person "gets" without a lot of explanation.
3) Visibly armed cops are not a group under a lot of public pressure to be legislated out of existence. He really isn't risking any sort of social or legislative censure of himself or his agency or his peers by appearing this way. Some poor soul might get a little flustered at seeing his big gun, but there's not a darned thing they or any group of their pals can do about it, no matter how much action they demand.
NWGlocker
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I can't believe I gave the news agency credit for a page view. Should have just stayed here after Sam correctly called it a non story.
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Sam, I agree with you for the most part. I'm not an advocate of open carry of long arms in town under normal circumstances by anyone, LEO or citizen. The threat level does not usually justify it. It's like seat belts. Everyone should wear a seat belt when driving just as everyone should carry a sidearm. We would be better off in a wreck if we were wearing a 4 point racing harness but the threat level does not justify it under normal circumstances, just like carrying a long arm. I was just pointing out the inconsistencies in the public's perception and response to people open carrying a long arm based on the persons job. Also, it was my understanding that the broken lock referred to in the news report was the one on his gun rack in the cab, not the trunk. I could be wrong about that though.
NWGlocker, I'm not familiar with Texas law as it relates to that. In Ohio it doesn't make any difference. Are you saying you can't carry a firearm in a convenience store or gas station in Texas if they sell alcohol? That would suck. All the gas stations around here sell alcohol.
ClickClickD'oh
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He's CBP and the town is about 1 mile from the border. I'm sure those people are more than accustomed to seeing armed CBP all day long. Such a non-event.
With CBP, there's about a 50/50 chance his vehicle didn't have a trunk.
bearcreek said:
With CBP, there's about a 50/50 chance his vehicle didn't have a trunk.
Obviously not 100% accustomed or it would not have made the news. It should be a non-event though.
BullfrogKen
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Closed for not meeting the level of discussion criteria for S&T.
It's not acceptable to simply post a link to a news story and nothing more.
And since no points of discussion are provided, this has gone down the path of talking about the politics surrounding open carry of a rifle - which S&T doesn't engage in.
It's not acceptable to simply post a link to a news story and nothing more.
And since no points of discussion are provided, this has gone down the path of talking about the politics surrounding open carry of a rifle - which S&T doesn't engage in.
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