Things that p-you off about gun companies.....
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meathammer
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Integrated locking mechanisms and plastic parts that should be/used to be made out of metal.
OK, others have hit major points, so here is a minor one. No spare mags,
and the cost of factory spare mags. SIG wants $60 for a 8 round single
stack (P220) magazine! All single stack pistols should be sold with 3 mags.
and double stacks sold with 2.
and the cost of factory spare mags. SIG wants $60 for a 8 round single
stack (P220) magazine! All single stack pistols should be sold with 3 mags.
and double stacks sold with 2.
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Corriea, oops sorry!! ( I just keep stepping on your toes huh?)
I see your point, poor guys balancing the checkbook gets blamed if managment doesn't manage. You guys are the scapegoats I suppose when marketing or any dept. mgr. fails in profits or results. Never get praise if a positive thing occurs...like profit.
Correia, good point and thanks for bringing it to light. I think you know what I meant. Umm...whom you do you get to blame?
Frohickey
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I have a better idea as to number of detachable magazines included...
The number of magazines sold with a gun should be enough to have a standard box of ammo be loaded.
So, for a M1A, it should include two 10-round magazines, or one 20 round mag.
For a high cap 9mm, it should include four 15-round magazines.
For a 1911, it should include seven 8-round magazines.
The number of magazines sold with a gun should be enough to have a standard box of ammo be loaded.
So, for a M1A, it should include two 10-round magazines, or one 20 round mag.
For a high cap 9mm, it should include four 15-round magazines.
For a 1911, it should include seven 8-round magazines.
556A2
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Safety devices that were not originally designed in the weapon like 1911s with the built in safeties. Anything that has the word "Tactical" on it, and AR-15 manufactures that put HBARs on standard.
Most firearms catalogs (and gun rags too, for that matter) list "magazine capacity" as 10 rounds.
We all know that the 1994 law limited capacity of new magazines to 10 rounds.
Why can't the manufacturers (and gun rags) just state what the standard capcity for a given firearm is. While not a big deal for rifles, it would give the consumer some idea of how big a handgun grip is.
We all know that the 1994 law limited capacity of new magazines to 10 rounds.
Why can't the manufacturers (and gun rags) just state what the standard capcity for a given firearm is. While not a big deal for rifles, it would give the consumer some idea of how big a handgun grip is.
SnWnMe
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The major manufacturers have never disappointed me. What ticks me off are those accessory makers who make crap products.
Missouri Mule
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One magazine shipped with an $800 pistol.
Cheesy rubber grip panels on an $800 pistol.
Cheesier plastic mainspring housing on a $800 pistol.
redundant add on "Lawyer" resistant safeties.......
Cheesy rubber grip panels on an $800 pistol.
Cheesier plastic mainspring housing on a $800 pistol.
redundant add on "Lawyer" resistant safeties.......
cdbeaver
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And why doesn't the Ruger No. 1 have a magazine?
Duh!
Duh!
Peter M. Eick
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The number one ticked off thing is just when I start to like a gun, and get one, then they go and stop making it, so I worry about breaking it and getting parts. For exmple the little colt 380 series......
Steve, just to hazard a guess, if you are the kind of person that buys an Ed Brown, you have probably developed pretty strong tastes in what type of 1911 magazines you prefer. And if I'm going to take a really wild guess, for most Ed Brown customers, it ain't their first 1911 and they probably have a drawer full of Wilsons or McCormicks.
Missouri Mule
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How about ONE magazine with a $2400 pistol? (Ed Brown)
Yep..... I agree!!
Correia
I'll agree with you for the most part. But for what a Brown custom goes for
I'd expect at least two tuned top quality mags. These mags could be of his proprietary design, that is fine. If they work as they should I'd use them.
My first preference, from my experiences, is Wilson Combat. That is probably because they were the second after market mags I tried. They have nearly always, for whatever reason, worked very well for me. The one exception is my Sistema-Colt. It seems to preferthe 2 1980's colt factory mags I use in it.
I'm not in a position to shell out 2-3 grand for a single pistol, at least not at this point. I do keep buying a couple of lottery tickets a week though, who knows!
I am the type of guy who would expect a $2400 pistol to be flawless in every way.
I reckon margin of profit on a $2400 pistol is just to slim to include a second $25 magazine. After all the man has to make a buck,right!
No slams intended or implied towards Mr. Brown. I wish I could aford one of his pistols. Been a dream for a long, long time, just can't justify it at this time.
Yep..... I agree!!
Correia
I'll agree with you for the most part. But for what a Brown custom goes for
I'd expect at least two tuned top quality mags. These mags could be of his proprietary design, that is fine. If they work as they should I'd use them.
My first preference, from my experiences, is Wilson Combat. That is probably because they were the second after market mags I tried. They have nearly always, for whatever reason, worked very well for me. The one exception is my Sistema-Colt. It seems to preferthe 2 1980's colt factory mags I use in it.
I'm not in a position to shell out 2-3 grand for a single pistol, at least not at this point. I do keep buying a couple of lottery tickets a week though, who knows!
I am the type of guy who would expect a $2400 pistol to be flawless in every way.
I reckon margin of profit on a $2400 pistol is just to slim to include a second $25 magazine. After all the man has to make a buck,right!
No slams intended or implied towards Mr. Brown. I wish I could aford one of his pistols. Been a dream for a long, long time, just can't justify it at this time.
gulogulo1970
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Bad factory triggers.
Maybe this one is just me being bitchy,but... DAO guns drive me farking insane. Can't stand them. I could see how some people might like them for carry, but personally i think no length of trigger pull is a substitute for safe handling, and i wouldn't imagine they're terribly good for accuracy either.
Built in locks. I will not own a gun with a lock in it. If enough people had sense enough to STOP buying them the locks would come off. The locks are in insult and a knee-jerk reactionary "safety" device that responsible gun owners don't need in any way. Punish those that cannot do it right and leave the rest of us alone.
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AnklePocket
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Taurus partnering with New Jersey legislators through the NJIT.
Agree with HSmith. A friend just bought a Springfield mil-spec, and now he has to shell out extra money to change to mainspring housing. That is just silly. He was trying to buy a WWII style gun, the locking mechanism is a bit out of place.
Yeah that Ruger warning on the barrel of a rifle doesn't bug me.. irritates the crap out of me on a Vaqeuro.. what gives?
I'm capable of buying atrigger lock, thanks. Why not just toss a trigger./cable lock in the box like other companies? Do LEO versions of pistols/revolvers have integral locks? Bet they don't. Imagine an officer getting hurt/killed because the LOCK failed.
Mild annoyance: buy a hi-cap pistol, see space for spare mag empty. (Most often this was dealers taking out mags, then selling the spare as a $30-50 extra "factory" magazine. Even if its post ban it ought to ship with at least TWO magazines.
Lawyer created trigger wieghts. Blah.
If plastic is a cheaper more reliable way to make a pistol, why doesn't a Glock cost $200? (plastic and guns, just say NO).
I'm capable of buying atrigger lock, thanks. Why not just toss a trigger./cable lock in the box like other companies? Do LEO versions of pistols/revolvers have integral locks? Bet they don't. Imagine an officer getting hurt/killed because the LOCK failed.
Mild annoyance: buy a hi-cap pistol, see space for spare mag empty. (Most often this was dealers taking out mags, then selling the spare as a $30-50 extra "factory" magazine. Even if its post ban it ought to ship with at least TWO magazines.
Lawyer created trigger wieghts. Blah.
If plastic is a cheaper more reliable way to make a pistol, why doesn't a Glock cost $200? (plastic and guns, just say NO).
Hand_Rifle_Guy
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Taurus' unwillingness to jump through the hoops neccessary to list their entire line for sale here in the PRK.
I suppose that's more a reflection on the stupidity of the extortion-racket laws we have in this stupid state, but heck, Ruger and S&W are willing to do it, and Kaliforny is a BIG chunk of the market.
This peeves me no end. Taurus has more than a few products that are unique in the industry, and I can't even BEGIN to think about owning them, while at the same time, Taurus is willing to have a token representation of their stuff sell-able here. None of which happens to be the stuff I want to buy.
Part of the line, but not all of it. Galling, that is. What'd I do to irritate 'em that they should tantalize and punish me so?
Yeah, I know. But it's not MY fault, I voted AGAINST the current legislature! Arrrrgh!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I suppose that's more a reflection on the stupidity of the extortion-racket laws we have in this stupid state, but heck, Ruger and S&W are willing to do it, and Kaliforny is a BIG chunk of the market.
This peeves me no end. Taurus has more than a few products that are unique in the industry, and I can't even BEGIN to think about owning them, while at the same time, Taurus is willing to have a token representation of their stuff sell-able here. None of which happens to be the stuff I want to buy.
Part of the line, but not all of it. Galling, that is. What'd I do to irritate 'em that they should tantalize and punish me so?
Yeah, I know. But it's not MY fault, I voted AGAINST the current legislature! Arrrrgh!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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