Things to Do AFTER a Shooting

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After a Shooting...advice from Massid Ayoob. For those who conceal carry you need to have a plan "if" you're ever involved in a shooting. Mr. Ayoob's "five things" goes a long way in preparing you.

Five Things to Do After a Shooting:
1. Point out the Perpetuator to Police
2. Tell Police you will Sign the Complain
3. Point out the Evidence to Police
4. Point out the Witnesses to Police
5. Tell them you Will Give Full Cooperation in 24 hours AFTER speaking with Attorney

Remember Mr. Ayoob's other advice: CALL THE POLICE! As Mr. Ayoob pointed out the first to call gets good standing...It shows you have NOTHING TO HIDE. I would add while you have 911 on the line describe yourself to the dispatcher (I’m a white man 5'10 wearing a green jacket, blues jeans, etc)... So when the Police arrive they know how to identify you.

Also VERY IMPORTANT is to ask the dispatcher to send medical help THIS WILL CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE Empathy for the perpetrator it shows you aren't a CRAZED GUN NUT... <= this will be VERY HELPFUL when the DA reviews your case!
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I would also point out what the gun I have looks like, so I don't get shot.

Ambulance on the way is a good idea, no matter who ends up hurt.
 
Doing #5 (making a promise) is fine.

As long as you don't actually follow through with your unenforceable promise (if there's any question at all as to whether you may be charged with a homocide; i.e. whether the DA/police think that the shooting is justified).
 
Also VERY IMPRTANT is to ask the dispatcher to send medical help THIS WILL CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE apathy for the perpetrator it shows you aren't a CRAZED GUN NUT... <= this will be VERY HELPFUL when the DA reviews your case!
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I dont mean to nitpick here, but I assume you meant "sympathy"...not "apathy." I should also add, and this applies to the "pre" arena as well as "post," be mentally prepared to and/or expect being charged with homicide. What happens after that is entirely up to the legal system.

Also, it would be wise to make certain that the weapon of choice, as used in this incident, is LEGAL and/or otherwise deemed a "politically" acceptable. If it isnt, it is my understanding that you could be charged with a felony (per use of an illegal weapon), regardless of whether or not it was used to defend your life. This, as I understand it, could be very, very bad news when added to the fact that a human life was taken (with this weapon), even in a justifiable homicide incident.

Regardless, the advice presented by Ayoob is certainly a good starting point.
 
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He forgot to mention (or perhaps it was too obvious):

0.5. Reload. Easy to forget; the attack may not quite be over, yet.
0.6 Move away from your assailant, to where you will greet the responding officers you have summoned. He may get up. Also, you want the police to encounter YOU, calm and peaceful, before they react to their coming upon a mangled, outbleeding set of remains with thirty 7.62mm. holes in it.
 
The ambulance is also for yourself or others in the area. It is not uncommon for people to be shot and not realize it due to adrenaline. There may be someone who was hit by a stray or overpenetration.
 
you mean walking over to the body and kicking it repeatedly while screaming "I told you not to @#$% with me!!!!!!" isn't one of the steps? Wow you learn so much on this site :D

All good steps, but I would personally add disarm the assailant. Just cause he is laying there motionless doesn't mean he is dead. I'd keep him in my sights walk up and kick his gun away.
 
Well, you could also go into how you should have the BG face down, legs crossed, arms spread out to the sides (palms up) and eyes away from you. This is assuming, of course, the BG is still alive and capable of such movement. If he/she has been shot and is merely lying there motionless, of course its still a good idea to keep the area "secured." Regardless, Im thinking the original post wasnt necessarily intended to cover the aspects regarding BG securement/control. ;)

But, as mentioned before, its a good idea to always identify yourself, both prior to and when the police arrive. After all, for all they know, YOU could be the hostile and the bleeding individual on the floor may be the victim.

In addition to all of this, as I mentioned before, make sure any weapon potentially used for self-defense is LEGAL. If not, you just might have a HUGE problem on your hands.
 
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In "signing a complaint" it needs to be made more clear that you tell the police you were assaulted using deadly force by the perpetrator and were in fear for your life because X (the perpetrator had a knife, a bat, a gun, there were 10 assailants with bats, etc.) and want to press charges.
 
Particularly in response to SpecialKalltheway:

It is bad advice to do anything to alter the scene. If you are worried about the assailant rising from the dead (metaphorically) to continue the attack, then move away, behind cover and keep him covered with your firearm. Do not remove the weapon from his hands!

Don't ask me how I know.
 
Guess it was a Freudian slip..... TeeHee

"THIS WILL CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE Empathy
 
This is the one situation where I would lawyer up even if I was absolutely convinced the shooting was 100% justified. The price of a simple mistake can cost you years of your life. There are prosecutors out there who do not like firearms and I do not wish to be a test case.
 
Mr.Trooper Dead AINT Daid.

Ive gone into wrecked rigs thinking for certain the mashed person in the can is dead.

But aint daid, alive enough to do something... makes me jump 10 feet and squeal OMGIT"SALIVE!!!!

When I come back down there is a bit of profanity from the victim saying to me of couse aint dead yet you *&% get me out of this thing now please...

Dead is when the temperature gets cold or they cover you up, until then... it lives.
 
Five Things to Do After a Shooting:
1. Point out the Perpetuator to Police
2. Tell Police you will Sign the Complain
3. Point out the Evidence to Police
4. Point out the Witnesses to Police
5. Tell them you Will Give Full Cooperation in 24 hours AFTER speaking with Attorney
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6. Blow away the smoke coming out of the barrel, twirl the gun forward 3x, backward 3x, and quickly holster it. :D
 
Wasnt there a Gene Hackman film "The quick and the dead" with the very large Indian who has been shot a million times?

I think if memory serves, that indian wasnt dead after being dead after the shootout.
 
If I am sure the threat is no longer a threat I might be inclined to re-holster and conceal my handgun. Reason being the first officer on seen may not know any more than shots fired and will be looking for a gun. If the response time is fast they may not have time to get the description of what I look like or what the attacker looked like. I would ID my self to the first cop I see but I just don't want some cop jumping out of his car and smoking me down cause I am standing there with a gun in my hand.
 
Those are indeed Massad's five steps, but they should be preceeded by

Call the police; describe yourself, stay on the line; and holster or pocket your gun.


On The Best Defense recently, they showed a scenario in which these were not done and the "good guy" ended up gettting shot by the police. Not too far fetched, I should think.
 
Wasnt there a Gene Hackman film "The quick and the dead" with the very large Indian who has been shot a million times?
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It starred Hackman, Russel Crowe, Sharon Stone, and DeCaprio. It was a Sam Raimi film. People who got shot in the body had clean-cut holes in them, and if they got shot in the head, they'd do backflips. Remember, this is the guy who made the Evil Dead series. Entertaining, even if lacking just a little bit on the realism.

If you're involved in a quickdraw shootout competition, immediately after shooting the other guy, you go have a few shots of whiskey.
 
When the police show up set your weapon down and back away from it with your hands in the clear. Announce to them that you called and are the good guy, and then fill them in on the where and why. Point out any witnesses, if any, then sit down and wait for the shakes to subside before saying anything else. Call the lawyer on the card in your wallet and tell him you need his services.
 
Also VERY IMPORTANT is to ask the dispatcher to send medical help

I'm going to need them to send someone who can raise someone from the dead otherwise medical help won't be needed. I guess I could ask just to be polite, or if I need some.
 
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