This gun could save your dog’s life

[pairof44sp]

I haven’t needed to use my Bond Arms Derringer in .410 to save my dog’s life… yet. But if you’ve ever needed it and didn’t have it, you know what I’m talking about.

If you truly do know what I’m talking about, then you know better than I do. My dog always steered clear of rattlesnakes (coyotes, too, but that’s for another thread). Your dog may not be as cautious.

Are we always going to bring a SW Governor just to walk the dog up a hill to get it tired out so it doesn’t whine during the evening? Not if we want our Dolphin shorts to stay up, we aren’t. We are going to bring a gun that makes us go, “Heck yeah, I pity the rattler that gets my dog barking too close. Except I don’t pity it. I shoot it and pick the BBs out of my dog’s nose in the shower.”

And right there you know I’ve never been in that situation, so get yourself one of these, then take your dog to the vet afterwards if you ever have to use it. They’re better at picking things out of noses than I am.


This, but in .410. Or are 357 shotshells better? Popcorn, etc.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

I am confused. Why does the dog get shot in the face?

 

[pairof44sp]

I am confused. Why does the dog get shot in the face?

Because the Bond Arms Derringer doesn’t always pattern so good.

warning: I have no idea what I’m talking about.

 

[ericuda]

Huh, first get the dog the rattlesnake shot. Then yes 38 shot is plenty.

 

[Milt1]

Prime example of animal cruelty!

 

[birdshot8's]

When I was a kid hunting along the gulf coast in Texas, my bird dog went on point, as I got closer I could hear the rattle, my dog was pointing a big fat diamondback in a caliche bank. The snake, coiled and ready with tail buzzing and the dog, in a classic point, were in a trance like state, noses only inches apart. I wanted that snake skin as it was a trophy. I said it was a big one. Well as I approached the pair, the rattler broke the spell and tagged my pointer on the side of his nose. My pointer yelped and ran to me for protection. The dog lived through the snake bite but it was a horrible time for him and me. The snake was not as lucky, my buddy unloaded his 3 shooter and basically cut the snake in three or four parts. So much for the trophy skin. I still have the rattle though.

 

[CDW4ME]

I haven’t needed to use my Bond Arms Derringer in .410 to save my dog’s life… yet.

Are we always going to bring a SW Governor just to walk the dog up a hill to get it tired out so it doesn’t whine during the evening? Not if we want our Dolphin shorts to stay up, we aren’t. We are going to bring a gun that makes us go, “Heck yeah, I pity the rattler that gets my dog barking too close. Except I don’t pity it. I shoot it and pick the BBs out of my dog’s nose in the shower.”

And right there you know I’ve never been in that situation, so get yourself one of these, then take your dog to the vet afterwards if you ever have to use it. They’re better at picking things out of noses than I am.

If one carries a derringer for possible snake dispatch, also carry another handgun suitable for SD against human attacker(s).

Shorts stay up fine if a belt is used; that belt also supports the "decent" handgun (Glock 19, Shield, Sig 365) carried IWB for defense against human attackers.

Better to take a chance on the dog being bitten by a snake than possibly shoot it in the face, potentially blinding it or worse.

 

[The Glockodile]

No personal experience with blasting snakes...

Would a regular pistol with a regular round be just as good?

I would think it's relatively easy to hit a snake's head with a Glock 19...

...just speculating.

 

[gunlaw]

Not a rattlesnake but I used a 45 acp on a good sized copperhead. It worked.

 

[MedWheeler]

If you're gonna shoot the dog, just carry a BB pistol and shoot the dog away from the snake.

I've only shot a snake once, many years ago, and it was with a Ruger Mk-II.

I don't go out in threads not sufficient to hold at least a P32 and, if that's all they can hold, that's what they do hold. However, I'm virtually never up and dressed without a solid belt on.

 

[Zerodefect]

Rodent plague in 3...2...

Get rid of your mice vermin, and the snakes will leave.

 

[Choctaw]

You can kill a rattler with a rock or stick. It doesn't take hardware. Or better yet just go around it.

 

[SwampWolf]

warning: I have no idea what I’m talking about.

So it would seem...

 

[JCooperfan1911]

Bond Arms bread and butter is convincing people that they are better off with a $600 2-shot derringer when in reality a $300 snubnose .38 or .44 is a better snake gun (when properly loaded) and quite a bit better for self defense against humans as well.

 

[The Glockodile]

You can kill a rattler with a rock or stick.

It's always been my walking stick.

Somewhat easy to flip them away, their strikes are never that fast...

Never really had to blast them.

 

[Old_Grouch]

Bond Arms bread and butter is convincing people that they are better off with a $600 2-shot derringer when in reality a $300 snubnose .38 or .44 is a better snake gun

Actually, Bond Arms does very little advertising. Virtually none compared to the major manufacturers of the .38 and .44 "snubnoses".
Bond's bread and butter is the people who own them, shoot them, and actually know something about them; then share facts with others.
BTW, some models can be had for under $300.00.

 

[Meeks36]

Not a rattlesnake but I used a 45 acp on a good sized copperhead. It worked.

Used to pop copperheads and water Moccasins with a .40 and 357. Never used snake/rat shot. Just aim for the head.

 

[gunlaw]

Used to pop copperheads and water Moccasins with a .40 and 357. Never used snake/rat shot. Just aim for the head.

I usually let snakes alone. Copperheads are territorial and this one was way too close to the house.

 

[JCooperfan1911]

Actually, Bond Arms does very little advertising. Virtually none compared to the major manufacturers of the .38 and .44 "snubnoses".
Bond's bread and butter is the people who own them, shoot them, and actually know something about them; then share facts with others.
BTW, some models can be had for under $300.00.

While this may be true, others who have owned and tried them have found them utterly uncompelling in terms of versatility especially when pressed into the later role discussed. Only two shots, pitiful ballistics due to the short barrels, and glacially slow reload offset nostalgia and niftyness. No doubt are they well made, but they are inferior especially considering their size and weight.

 

[jmr40]

If you have time to shoot it, you have time to walk around it. It is the ones you never see until they bite that are the problem.

 

[Old_Grouch]

others who have owned and tried them have found them utterly uncompelling in terms of versatility especially when pressed into the later role discussed.

As I'm sure some have found regarding, well, just about anything one could mention; including 1911s.
My point here is:
1. Some people prefer vanilla to chocolate.
2. Some prefer chocolate to vanilla.
3. I will NEVER understand why some chocolate lovers seem compelled to tell vanilla lovers why they're wrong; and vice versa.

 

[rust collector]

I have used rocks, a boat paddle and a 2x4 at various times to remove rattlesnakes from the vicinity of humans, but would much rather avoid them or send them on their way. A well trained dog should avoid or disengage on command. Shooting anywhere near a dog's face isn't an option for me. I am not really sure what the OP's point was, but think we can agree to use the best tool at hand and keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

I'm all about killing venomous snakes in populated areas, don't get me wrong.

But I've always been of the opinion that the best general purpose offensive and defensive tool for snakes is a good walking stick.

Even with a dog who might get injured.

Snakes don't chase after critters which are objectively HUGE to them. They react and defend when encountered. Separate the two and the battle is over.

If I were walking a dog and we encountered a snake, I can easily get up close enough to safely wield a stick, whether it's to wail on the snake or wack on my dog to separate the two.

(I'll take wacking my dog with a stick over shooting him any day.)

I'll carry my usual EDC, but not a snake-specific firearm. Between a good stick and my EDC, I'm covered.

THAT SAID...if you walk to carry something with snake shot, have at it. But consider that as one choice among many, which may not end up being the best.

Cheers to you and you dog.

 

[Rubone]

We have lots of snakes. We have lots of dogs. We have no issues with either of them. The snakes do a good job in their role. Same with the dogs. I don't shoot any of the above. Humans?? That is a different story!
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[ThomasT]

If you truly do know what I’m talking about, then you know better than I do. My dog always steered clear of rattlesnakes (coyotes, too, but that’s for another thread). Your dog may not be as cautious.

I don't have a dog. Don't have snakes either. Except one copperhead that wondered over and I just picked him up by the tail and dropped it in a 5 gallon bucket. Then I hauled it a couple of miles away to the RR tracks and turned it loose.

My bud hates snakes and is scared of them. I load him 32 mag snake loads with #12 shot. He has killed over 50 snakes so far. One shot apiece.

I have looked at the Bond arms guns a couple of times and don't care for them. Too many other better guns.