this is ridiculous!

[orionengnr]

and as far as those license plate covers go

do a google on "Phantom Plate". They sell them on eBay and brag about how well they work, and have several "newspaper articles" substantiating the results.

Far more Google hits, though, say that they don't work...and show pics from different angles that show the license plate is still legible from an angle. I was thinking of trying it, but think I'll save the $30.

 

[Aguila Blanca]

Red light runners are a real problem in my city, I forget what the numbers are but they cause a lot of death and injury. It's not possible or practical to post a traffic cop at every red light, cameras are the only answer to control it.

No, they are not the only answer. And they are a bad answer.

It was mentioned above that wherever these things are installed, they result in MORE accidents rather than fewer. That has been documented. And it was recently confirmed (don't remember where I read it, but I did) that the yellow intervals are DELIBERATELY made impossibly short to pay for the cameras.

These things aren't being installed to enhance traffic safety, they are being installed to enhance revenue stream.

 

[Brother in Arms]

Its all well and good and all to try to keep people from causing accidents. But this shows a distint distrust in the subje...I mean people of this country. If they put up cameras for red light runners, its just a matter of time before its cameras in public rest rooms to make sure people aren't (use your imagination here) The uk already has the problem. Not only is it a police state but your on candid camera all the time. We already have to many everywhere.

Its like tonight on inside edition, they had a guy point a laser pen at a plane and it said the Federal government used methods to find out who did it.

I wonder what these methods where? Makes me want to pick up the phone call someone I don't know and say AlKaeda, Osama binladin, IRA, PLO and things of that nature.

Im adding more tinfoil to my hat.

Brother in Arms

 

[BigRobT]

Minneapolis is bragging/ warning about the installation of these cameras. Having driven in Minneapolis since 1986, I will say that there are an extreme number of people that run the yellow lights, as well as the red lights. The one thing they DON'T address is the pedestrian that walks against the don't walk sign or even the red light. These people slow down an already fast paced traffic situation, frustrate drivers and have the ultimate protection of the law because, in Minnesota, pedestrians ALWAYS have the right of way. I was always taught, you walk with the GREEN light and when the little hand comes on that says, "Don't Walk" you either hauled butt to get across or waited. I think Minnesota needs to rethink their pedestrian laws. If a pedestrian is in the wrong by being blatantly stupid, inconsiderate or just ignoring the traffic controls, there should be NO driver considered at "fault" in a Motor Vehicle vs Pedestrian crash.

 

[redranger1]

I am far from a Bush fan but I don't see how you can hang this on him or anyone other than the City fathers of Colombia. This is happening everywhere.

308win, i misspelled precedent. this is in no way bush's fault and im not blaming him. i mean PRECEDENT.

 

[LSCurrier]

Don't loan out your guns to anyone, buddy or not! They got money like you and can get their own stuff if they want.

Maybe they need to borrow guns because they don't have money and are looking to get some.

Luke

 

[XLMiguel]

Furthermore, the statistics say that, where cameras have been installed, there are fewer t-bone accidents from red light runners, but there are more rear-end accidents because people going through these intersections don't make judgments based on safety, just the camera. And that's when there ISN'T corruption like we had here.QUOTE]

That was exactly the experience we had in N VA, but the great state of VA was saw fit to discontinue the program, though the safety Nazi's are still whining and moaning to bring them back, along with photo-radar. As someone astutely observed, 'safety is the excuse, revenue is the reason'.

This is a law-enforcement issue, and cameras don't enforce the law, and tickets with no consequence (i.e. "points") don't do much to modify behavior, it's just anouth road use tax..