I can't speak from personal ownership, but I used to work for a firearms distributor. Most of the problems that we saw with some of the cheaper European firarms or those from South America has more to do with quality control than anything else. They were inconsistent. They'd make a line of solid guns and then their maching set up would get jobbed or someone would just be having a bad day and they'd spit out a piece of crap. I'll say this about the Japanese guns, they are fanatics about quality and it shows.
Thoughts on CZ Shotguns?
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Trends. It used to be that for skeet 26" on an O/U was kinda common.
For an autoloader clays gun, 28"-32" is good. 30" works nicely for just about all things. I've got a 26", and I've shot the same gun with 30". I wish I'd gotten the 30".
For trap, O/U or Single 30"+ is good. Wouldn't go shorter than 30"
For Skeet, O/U I wouldn't go shorter than 26". 30" is about right IMO. 32" would work just fine if that's what you like. 34" is getting kinda long.
Lots of personal preference involved with barrel length. Personally, I think longer barrels are better, and current trends are in that direction. 32" barrels for skeet would have been unthinkable 30 years ago.
Trends. It used to be that for skeet 26" on an O/U was kinda common.
For an autoloader clays gun, 28"-32" is good. 30" works nicely for just about all things. I've got a 26", and I've shot the same gun with 30". I wish I'd gotten the 30".
For trap, O/U or Single 30"+ is good. Wouldn't go shorter than 30"
For Skeet, O/U I wouldn't go shorter than 26". 30" is about right IMO. 32" would work just fine if that's what you like. 34" is getting kinda long.
Lots of personal preference involved with barrel length. Personally, I think longer barrels are better, and current trends are in that direction. 32" barrels for skeet would have been unthinkable 30 years ago.
Some would say so.
I personally think that the balance of the gun makes a difference. A light barrel could stand to be longer.
30" should work pretty well on a light gun like that, for a multi-purpose shotgun.
Personally, I can't stand using a semiauto at the range. We don't have servants at our club; we have to pick up our own trash, including hulls. Waiting shooters are not happy about it, either. If I'm reloading the hulls, I like it even less, since the hulls get filled with dirt sometimes.
I don't know anything about the SIG, so I can't comment.
I shoot a 28" Browning Citori. I like it because it is just a tad muzzle heavy. I have a tendency to stop my swing and the muzzle heavy gun helps as it makes me swing through the target to get out in front of the bird particularly on stations 3,4, and 5 on Skeet.
I've had CZ pistols for quite a while, and purchased a CZ Woodcock in 12 gauge last year. Maybe a thousand rounds through it so far. My son and I shoot skeet on family property, as well as deer and rabbit hunting. No failures so far. I've actually used it to deer hunt. The 26" O/U has perfect LOP and balance for me. I don't know that the gun will ever see 10k rounds, though. It will see some birds in North Carolina this fall, and I'm looking to shooting it, along with my Baretta Silver Snipe.
Guys the Huglu factory is huge, and uses the best, most modern equipment and CNC techniques. They make quality firearms. Opinions are generally favorable of the CZ-branded, Huglu made SxSs and O/Us. Not as good as Japanese-made shotguns, but almost there and a whole lot less. Dunno about other turkish factories.
I agree with much of the above. The CZ is a Turkish Huglu. Their reputation for quality is spotty. (Moderators, please note how polite I was there). Firing pin breakage in Huglus is legendary.
Buy a good quality used gun. Buy a sportning, not a field O/U. Brands to look for would include Beretta, Browning, or as has been mentioned, SKB. My first O/U was a well used Beretta. I paid less than $800 for it. Six thousand rounds later, it is still going strong.
Frankly, I don't like the Sigs. They are Rizzinis which I don't think are as good as the B's or SKB.
Buy a good quality used gun. Buy a sportning, not a field O/U. Brands to look for would include Beretta, Browning, or as has been mentioned, SKB. My first O/U was a well used Beretta. I paid less than $800 for it. Six thousand rounds later, it is still going strong.
Frankly, I don't like the Sigs. They are Rizzinis which I don't think are as good as the B's or SKB.
I have an old Stoeger Zephyr Woodlander - Spanish made which was a very cheap gun in its day, but is my all time favorite shotgun. It's well made, pretty, and shoots well. I still break it out for dove season and shoot clays with it too.
My brother and I went out and shot sporting clays last night, he shoots a CZ Canvasback, and I shoot a Stoeger Condor S. Both are fairly "cheap" in the shotgunning world, but both have held up fine. They both lock up tight, shoot well, and will kill a dove or clay bird just as well as a Beretta. I think most folks get caught up with what the price is on a shotgun thinking the more they spend, the better they'll shoot in the field. I am a firm believer that it doesn't matter what kind of shotgun (or any firearm for that matter) you shoot as long as you shoot it well. That 870 or H&R single in the hands of any real shooter will hit what they are aiming at. That's my 2 cents
And as long as the firing pins don't break.
Too many people think that honest assessments of a shotgun's longevity are snobbery, for some reason. They're not.
As I wrote above, the Stoegers have been reliable.
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