Title II weaponry supply?

[Dionysusigma]

So lemme get this straight... regular US citizens cannnot own MGs/SMGs made after 1986. Unless of course, you have a Class 3 license. AOWs can still be made/had (I could SBR my Mossberg 590 today if I wanted to, after I get the OK from the ATF).

So what I'm asking is, what the happened to all the pre-'86 full-auto stuff from other countries--AKMs, PPShs, Vickers, Stens, MP-40s, StG. 44s, FG-42s, MG44s, Brens, 1919s, Beretta BM59s, Steyr MPi 69s, Skorpions, Suomis, Carl Gustaf M. 45s, RPKs, RPDs, PKMs, Valmets, and so on and so forth? What happened to all the M-16A1s, M-14s, BARs, Grease Guns, etc.?

Did I miss another memo?

 

[Wildalaska]

they all exist...if transferable before 86 (ie in private hands) still transfgerable today.

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[RevDisk]

I'm sure all weapons were registered or turned in. If you hunt around on the 'net, you can find some NFA stuff for sale. You're looking at four or five figures for those kinds of toys, however. A piece of metal that took 50 cents to make now sells for low four figures.

Those are the rules.

 

[boofus]

I think most of those guns turned into pre-86 dealer samples. You see alot of neat stuff like Steyr SMGs and Beretta PM12s available as samples that you just don't see as transferables.

So anyone with a FFL and Class 3 SOT can purchase them and even keep them if they give up the FFL but they can never sell them to anyone else unless it is another Class 3.

 

[Rocko]

Importation of MG's for civilian ownership was given the axe in the 1968 GCA. These were the original "non-sporting" guns - the definition of which, has of course, been greatly expanded over the years. So, and imports between 1968 and 1986 are "pre-samples" and can only be purchased by a licensee. However, if he gives up his license, he can still keep them (unlike post-samples manufactured after 86). For surplus military MG's, I believe it is the case that either they were never entered in the NFRTR, or even if they were, the military has a policy to destroy them. There was a discussion on subguns a couple of months ago about a couple of thousand greaseguns that were set to be destroyed by the military. One dealer was trying to convince the powers that be there to do otherwise, but they wouldn't even demill the receivers and sell the parts.

Police dept's, however, are a good source of transferable inventory for dealers. You'll see ads from dealers offering to trade PD's straight up for their old MG's for new, modern ones. Of course, I'd bet the PD's often don't realize that the dealers are getting the bargain that they are... I'm sure some PD's elect to destroy them anyway.