Today's best values that we will regret not buying tomorrow?

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Before the 1990's Clinton gun ban you could pick up Chinese AK's for $150 and now they're highly sought after. Colt Pythons could be found for a few hundred used a while ago. 22LR ammo was on shelves everywhere and at decent prices not too long ago.

Now even cheap AK's, SKS, Mosin Nagants, VZ58 which were near throw away prices have gone up considerably. Surplus ammo is not as cheap now either.

What are the gun bargains out there today that we might not appreciate until they're gone?

I try to think in terms of multiple generations ahead and getting what we can buy today that will not only appreciate a bit, but might not be available later.

The only "deals" I can think of right now in 2015 are:
  • AR-15 lowers available as low as $50
  • Cheap magazines like PMAGs or other standard capacity pistol magazines

These aren't deals but are commonly available:
  • Glocks and similar pistols
  • AR-15's
  • Ruger 10/22's
  • AKs such as Zastavas and WASR 10's are plentiful but are all well over $500 now.
  • All ammo is on the shelf except 22LR

What are the best deals, sleepers, passed over and unappreciated guns or related items are out there right now?
 
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Depending on how this next election goes, that list could include; any rifle using a removable box magazine, any magazine with a capacity of over 10 rounds, any "military style" firearm, any sound suppressor, any 5.56 ammo, any ammo with a projectile that is attracted to a magnet, any firearm that was bought in a face-to-face private sale minus background check.
 
Wow. The fearmongering is thick this morning. Apparently some think that the government is a dictatorship with no representative or legal branch that has some influence, either.

And there is the issue of compliance, summed up as "take them from my cold dead hands," which is alive and well in NY these days, despite the SAFE act.

In reality, it's going to be things like the M1 Garand - once they are gone, they are gone, as the same omnipotent government that allows their sale now will no doubt refuse to import any from overseas because every new administration continues the oppressive policies of the past, regardless of origin. If anything it's why we hear about selling 1911's - when the Garands are gone, there are no guns at the DCM's and the program could be closed completely.

It's our own previously made in the USA battle guns that are in danger of not being available.

Add in where will the old M9 Berrettas go if a new pistol is adopted? Anti gunners are going to impede selling them in any way they can, too. I wouldn't focus on gun ban fears when we already have a gun ban on selling off military surplus to the American public.

It very much does go to a ban state of mind when we don't see any traction of selling surplus M16's in any form. At the least they could be parted down economically with the lower receiver kept back. The next step would be demilling the lower by modifying the disconnector hole and removing the disconnector completely. It's simply not going to happen under the current regime of thinking - yet it's no more work than refurbishing an M1.

If you could buy a Colt, H&R, or GM for $800, would you be interested? If a full auto pre Hatch amendment could be had for $1,800, would you line up?

We've got plenty of guns NOW we can't buy because the collective mindset of leaders we continue to support is already anti gun in these areas - regardless of what they mouth in public. That's a reality - not what extremist ban fantasy might be dreamed up to troll the shooting public.

For most of the rest - it's nearly too late already. Pre '64 isn't affordable, post 64 lever guns aren't cheap, etc. HK P7's are approaching their MSRP from when they were available. With two panics under our collective belts, I don't think there's much left that would be worth the worry.

The ship has sailed for many of us. We should focus on what could be purchased back that was already financed by us and classified as our own collective property.
 
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I have to agree with that. US military surplus (WW1/WW2 stuff) will be the fastest rising market. What does a pre ban Thompson machine gun sell for these days? I just sold an M1 carbine for $200 more than I paid for it a few years ago. Like waterfront property, supply is finite. Anything that is already restricted is a sure bet. Anything that might become restricted is even odds.
 
Colt 6920. They are routinely $799+shipping. That's just a bargain regardless of outcomes. When the ban sunset in 2004, I bought one for $1150 and was overjoyed to get it since we had spent 10 years with $2K ones ( "evil features " removed) with $100 mags. Joe
 
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Wow. The fearmongering is thick this morning. Apparently some think that the government is a dictatorship with no representative or legal branch that has some influence, either.
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Unfortunately, recent history gives more credence to that opinion than I'm happy with.....
 
1st Generation Glocks in NIB condition. And you might think I am crazy but I think top quality Vintage Sporterized Bolt Action Rifles are going to go up. The quality of the work on some of these rifles done in somebodies home shop is amazing. The craftsmanship can be bought for almost nothing.
 
http://www.cdnnsports.com/email-specials-html/range-bag-with-20-ar15-mags.html#.Vj5P0no8KrU

AR15 mags. Some states banned sale of mags with common capacity. They are so cheap now that you can squirrel away a lifetime supply for cheap. If you think you need 2 mags, they are reliable for 5 years of normal use, and you plan to shoot for 50 years, then buy 20 now ((50/5)x2). Adjust as needed. 20 mags are $120 with a bag. They will always trade same as cash since they are standardized. Much better than mags that only fit a specific brand and model of weapon.
 
For me? Anything with polished blue and wood. Even though not high polish blue, cz rimfires.
 
Ar lowers and parts now that they are down.

Any metal pistol with a hammer (very few made in the US now aside from the 1911's). Not hating on poly but people want what they can't get later.

Non-safety lever guns.
 
That's a good call there on s&w .38's. I think once the police trade ins dry up, people will be missing them.
 
I don't know if they qualify as "best values" but I think picking up a new Colt anything might be a wise move given their current financial situation.
 
I already regret not buying a carload of pre-lock S&W revolvers when you could get them for $300. I also should have snapped up a basement full of those $300 reimported Garands in the early 90s.

I think 3rd generation S&W autos will only go up. I might also pick up a Colt Gold Cup or two for when Colt inevitably goes under. Those $319 Model 10's from Australia that Bud's has been selling will be a decent investment I think, especially if you get the pre-MIM ones and give them a little rubdown with cold blue.

Standard capacity magazines for popular guns like Glocks and ARs probably are a safe bet as well. The next time Brownells has their 20 round AR mags on sale I'm going to pick up a few more.
 
Some talk here on Colt going under.

I have a few but not currently buying anymore. A few months ago I thought Colt would fold but it looks like they will stay in business with Sciens and Morgan Stanley as their (partners) financial backers. They couldn't sell the company because it wasn't worth anything, too much debt. Quality will go down going forward as they race to the bottom with S&W and Ruger. Some signs of it already.

I like the USGI and the pre 70 S&W revolver market.
 
Smith and Wesson revolvers made pre 1990 have seen a spike in value especially the magnums with pinned barrels and counter bored chambers. Although not cheap now, they will continue to increase in value. S&W nickel guns are no more and should also continue to climb as will the older discontinued bright blue guns. The Ruger "six" series of revolvers are showing potential for increasing value. Ruger's shotguns and No.1 rifles are also worth watching. Most any Browning long gun will increase in value. There are many others but as someone previously stated, anything in blue steel and nice wood will be the collectables of tomorrow.
 
I'd have to say the SKS and AR-15. I bought my SKS 10 years ago for $150 out the door. Today, they are $350-400.

AR-15....right now they are as cheap as they'll ever be. CDNN has the Ruger AR-556 for $599. If you want one, now is the time!

As soon as the election gets geared up next year.....prices will skyrocket
 
Sleepers would include:

CMP Garands. You can flip them for ~$150 profit today. The day CMP runs out, the prices will double.

Cz-82s and P-64s. These are the East German Makarovs of our time. Good guns seriously underpriced.

Shocker...Toz-35m free pistols. A bunch were imported. You can pick one up for $600 or less.
 
Any of the Philippine M1911s. They're currently at the price point where the CZ75s used to be.

I just bought a Citadel 3.5 CS, and will probably buy another, a Commander size.
 
CMP Garands. You can flip them for ~$150 profit today. The day CMP runs out, the prices will double.
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Very true! A bit over 6 million M1 Rifles were built between 1936 and 1958. How many of these were rendered unserviceable from use, lost during the two wars they were used in and those never returned after being 'loaned' to allies.
 
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