traditions kit?
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Hawkins
Hi James, I don't know much about the Traditions Hawkins,but I do have a Traditions Prusuit Pro break-open model that I am very pleased with.I am satisfied with their quality. I do most of my hunting with a T.C. Hawkins that I built from a kit, it is alot of fun to build one.There is several T.C. Hawkins for sale on Gun Broker.Com at a fair price. One of the advantages of the T.C. Hawkins is Green Mountain makes a barrel with a 1 in 28 twist for shooting Conical or sabot bullets. Most of the Hawkins are made with a 1 in 48 twist barrel, it is good for shooting round balls or conicals,but not really great for either. A barrel with a 1 in 66 is better for round balls and a 1 in 28 twist is better for a conical bullet. I replaced my barrel with a 1 in 28 twist barrel from G.M. and I love it to shot conical bullets. I'm just offering info. now is the time to get it before you start. I think I told you right,correct me if I'm wrong guys.
Hi James, I don't know much about the Traditions Hawkins,but I do have a Traditions Prusuit Pro break-open model that I am very pleased with.I am satisfied with their quality. I do most of my hunting with a T.C. Hawkins that I built from a kit, it is alot of fun to build one.There is several T.C. Hawkins for sale on Gun Broker.Com at a fair price. One of the advantages of the T.C. Hawkins is Green Mountain makes a barrel with a 1 in 28 twist for shooting Conical or sabot bullets. Most of the Hawkins are made with a 1 in 48 twist barrel, it is good for shooting round balls or conicals,but not really great for either. A barrel with a 1 in 66 is better for round balls and a 1 in 28 twist is better for a conical bullet. I replaced my barrel with a 1 in 28 twist barrel from G.M. and I love it to shot conical bullets. I'm just offering info. now is the time to get it before you start. I think I told you right,correct me if I'm wrong guys.
Thefabulousfink
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I've been pretty impressed with tradition's bp guns, they aren't quite as fancy as some of the more expensive ones but they are sturdy and reasonably accurate. I built a Trapper pistol from a kit when I was 18, and a friend of mine just finished a hawken rifle that turned out very nice. The nice thing about the kits is that if you put the work into it, you end up with a rifle that looks like its worth twice what you paid for it.
Keep in mind that it is a "kit", not a set of Legos. Out of the box It will probably go together about 80% and you will have to remove some wood or brass. On high-end guns all the parts fit tightly in the stock with almost no gaps. The parts are also flush with the stock, no bumps or overhangs. You can do this with your kit, but it requires time and patience to carefully fit each piece. Google "building a blackpowder rifle" and you should find several good tutorial.
Keep in mind that it is a "kit", not a set of Legos. Out of the box It will probably go together about 80% and you will have to remove some wood or brass. On high-end guns all the parts fit tightly in the stock with almost no gaps. The parts are also flush with the stock, no bumps or overhangs. You can do this with your kit, but it requires time and patience to carefully fit each piece. Google "building a blackpowder rifle" and you should find several good tutorial.
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Hawkins
James, there is a nice T.C. Hawkins with a 1 in 66 twist barrel for round balls on AuctionArms.com. It has a ramrod that looks to be too short, but you can buy a better ramrod to use. Look in the blackpowder #8057898.I think this one ends in about 8 hours or so. I have seen some kits for sale there also.
James, there is a nice T.C. Hawkins with a 1 in 66 twist barrel for round balls on AuctionArms.com. It has a ramrod that looks to be too short, but you can buy a better ramrod to use. Look in the blackpowder #8057898.I think this one ends in about 8 hours or so. I have seen some kits for sale there also.
arcticap
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James1, Traditions rifles are made by Ardesa and their percussion rifles are regarded as being very reliable, accurate shooters which are a good value for the money.
The main drawbacks with a kit is that it can sometimes end up costing more than buying a factory finished gun. Also, a person who purchases a kit can never be sure exactly how it will come out beforehand.
At least if a factory gun is purchased, there's a full warranty and a more certain degree of fit and finish built into the gun. Then the person can simply buy some shooting accessories and start working up loads for their new rifle right away.
The main drawback with the St. Louis Hawken IMO might be with the double triggers, which can be a little problematic in areas with cold weather ML deer seasons if wearing gloves is necessary. In that case, a single trigger model would be another option to consider. Otherwise double triggers are usually a plus for target shooting, as long as the trigger doesn't have too much creep.
Also, their Woodsman Hawken Model which may be similar to the St. Louis Hawken model (except for the patchbox maybe?) has a hooked triggerguard and a curved buttplate which not everyone will find to be ergonomic, and there can be more felt recoil when shooting heavy hunting loads.
http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=R24008
The main drawbacks with a kit is that it can sometimes end up costing more than buying a factory finished gun. Also, a person who purchases a kit can never be sure exactly how it will come out beforehand.
At least if a factory gun is purchased, there's a full warranty and a more certain degree of fit and finish built into the gun. Then the person can simply buy some shooting accessories and start working up loads for their new rifle right away.
The main drawback with the St. Louis Hawken IMO might be with the double triggers, which can be a little problematic in areas with cold weather ML deer seasons if wearing gloves is necessary. In that case, a single trigger model would be another option to consider. Otherwise double triggers are usually a plus for target shooting, as long as the trigger doesn't have too much creep.
Also, their Woodsman Hawken Model which may be similar to the St. Louis Hawken model (except for the patchbox maybe?) has a hooked triggerguard and a curved buttplate which not everyone will find to be ergonomic, and there can be more felt recoil when shooting heavy hunting loads.
http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=R24008
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