Transferring firearm from MA to CT in a private sale

[Devonai]

I'm planning on selling my Glock to a good friend who lives in Connecticut. I live in Massachusetts so the pistol is currently registered to me. He tells me that Connecticut has pistol registration in effect.

First, does this registration apply to all transfers or only in certain cases, i.e. dealer point-of-sale?

Second, must I bring the Glock to a CT FFL and pay the transfer fee or can we simply draw up a bill of sale between the two of us and avoid the FFL all together?

My intent is to remain lawful, not to save money. In either case all I need is a bill of sale in order to transfer the pistol out of state.

 

[Hkmp5sd]

If you are in one state and he is in another, you must ship (or physically transport) the firearm to a FFL in his state and he gets the gun from that FFL.

 

[Swamp Yankee]

You and your friend will have to go to a FFL in Ct. and do all the paperwork. The transaction will require a Sale Authorization Number issued through the Ct. Dept. of Public Safety. This is required for all handgun sales in Ct. Hopefully your friend has a Ct. Pistol Permit. If not I doubt the FFL will be able to do the transfer.
Take Care

 

[lapidator]

Bottom line is that inter-state handgun sales must go through an FFL.

A side point if i might. What type of glock is it? Are you aware that you cannot purchase a new glock in Massachusetts and that used "MA legal" glocks are very expensive? For example, a used G26 will easily fetch $600 in MA whereas your friend in CT would likely be able to purchase a new one for $475.

You might want to reconsider the financial side of this transaction.

(not to mention this would be one more glock that would no longer be legal to own in MA)

lapidator

 

[M1911]

Devonai: the previous posters are correct, you must transfer it through an FFL in CT. Also, you must fill out a form FA-10 and send it to the Criminal Systems History Board in MA. You can get a form FA-10 from your local police department. You must do that within 7 days of the sale, so get the form prior to the sale.

Btw, as you might know, in MA you won't be able to get a new Glock to replace the one you are selling. Are you sure you want to sell it?

 

[Devonai]

M1911, are you sure I need to fill out an FA-10 for a weapon that's leaving the Commonwealth? I reviewed:

MGL Chapter 140 Section 129C

... and as you can see it does not specify whether a transfer to an out of state FFL requires the completion of a FA-10. I'll keep looking but if you know where there's a clarification I'd appreciate it.


Believe me, gentlemen, I know all about selling a non-Kommandant Reilly approved pistol and regretting it later. How I miss my USP .40. The Glock is a model 22 and as you know is still extremely common despite the ban. Of course, the ban could always get worse :banghead:

Yes, the buyer has his CT LTC. Do we have to call ahead in order to get the authorization number or can we just show up at the shop?

 

[Swamp Yankee]

You will have to go to the shop first. They will contact the Dept. of Public Safety for the authorization number. They will require your friends permit number to do this.
Suggest you call ahead and make sure the computers are up and running at the DPS. They are notorious for going down and shutting down all firearms transactions. Particularly on Saturdays when the shops do a brisk business. Another fun part of this system, if you have a common name, (like me), chances are about 50/50 the transaction will be denied. This requires the dealer to call the DPS directly to have the transaction approved. The good news is this usually takes only a few minutes. The bad news, there is no one at the DPS on Sundays so if you get denied your outta luck until Monday.
Take Care

 

[M1911]

Devonai: I am not an attorney and this isn't legal advice. But if I were you, I'd certainly fill out a form FA-10.

A seller shall, within seven days, report all such transfers to the executive director of the criminal history systems board according to the provisions set forth in section one hundred and twenty-eight A, and in the case of loss, theft or recovery of any firearm, rifle, shotgun or machine gun, a similar report shall be made forthwith to both the executive director of the criminal history systems board and the licensing authority in the city or town where the owner resides. Failure to so report shall be cause for suspension or permanent revocation of such person's firearm identification card or license to carry firearms, or both, and shall be punished by a fine of not less than $200 nor more than $1,000 for a first offense and by a fine of not less than $1,000 nor more than $5,000 for a second offense.

GOAL or an attorney may be able to give you a more definitive opinion.

 

[lapidator]

From a purely paranoid standpoint, i'd be filling out the FA-10 form. Here's why: suppose someone breaks into your friends house and steals the gun. He then commits a murder with it and then tries to separate himself from it. The cops find the gun and track it back to you. Well because you never told MA that you offloaded the gun -- you get my point. Sure you wont be charged with murder, but how much is your lawyer going to charge you? Filling out the FA-10 form is free.

lapidator

 

[Devonai]

Hmm

I just pulled one of my previously used FA-10 forms out of storage and read the back. It does say, "No interstate transactions using this form. Consult a gun dealer."

If that's the case, filling out an FA-10 for an interstate transfer would bring down all holy hell on you, since the FRB doesn't know whether or not you used a dealer in addition to the form.

I'm going to run over to Four Seasons this afternoon. I'm guessing that a bill of sale and a photocopy of the CT State Police form (with authorization number) will be enough to prevent any legal woes.