Traveling to NC: reciprocity

[dbp]

S.C. Sign Requirements - As you can imagine, there are very few signs posted that carry the weight of the law in S.C. !!

SECTION 23-31-235. Sign requirements.

(A) Notwithstanding any other provision of this article, any requirement of or allowance for the posting of signs prohibiting the carrying of a concealable weapon upon any premises shall only be satisfied by a sign expressing the prohibition in both written language interdict and universal sign language.

(B) All signs must be posted at each entrance into a building where a concealable weapon permit holder is prohibited from carrying a concealable weapon and must be:

(1) clearly visible from outside the building;

(2) eight inches wide by twelve inches tall in size;

(3) contain the words “NO CONCEALABLE WEAPONS ALLOWED” in black one inch tall uppercase type at the bottom of the sign and centered between the lateral edges of the sign;

(4) contain a black silhouette of a handgun inside a circle seven inches in diameter with a diagonal line that runs from the lower left to the upper right at a forty five degree angle from the horizontal;

(5) a diameter of a circle; and

(6) placed not less than forty inches and not more than sixty inches from the bottom of the building’s entrance door.

(C) If the premises where concealable weapons are prohibited does not have doors, then the signs contained in subsection (A) must be:

(1) thirty six inches wide by forty eight inches tall in size;

(2) contain the words “NO CONCEALABLE WEAPONS ALLOWED” in black three inch tall uppercase type at the bottom of the sign and centered between the lateral edges of the sign;

(3) contain a black silhouette of a handgun inside a circle thirty four inches in diameter with a diagonal line that is two inches wide and runs from the lower left to the upper right at a forty five degree angle from the horizontal and must be a diameter of a circle whose circumference is two inches wide;

(4) placed not less than forty inches and not more than ninety six inches above the ground;

(5) posted in sufficient quantities to be clearly visible from any point of entry onto the premises.

 

[basicblur]

Yes Basicblur, the no handgun signs trump the law. ANYWHERE there is one you cannot legally carry

Trumps the law? I assume you mean IS the law?
This answer is not clear enough, and is typical of what I have to slog through to find what the law in NC actually is.

One could say in VA, the signs trump (or more accurately, ARE) the law, but there's more to the story as the points in my previous post point out.

Got a no guns sign in VA? Yeah, it can be argued that you can't legally carry there, but there is no penalty if you do so - you can be asked to leave, and if you don't, then it's a trespass violation, NOT a weapons charge.
In VA, the signs carry no weight of law!
Semantics, I know, but isn't that what the law is all about these days?

In the future, I think the gun community needs to learn (and accurately use) the phrase carries the weight of law when discussing whether posted signs automatically carry a penalty or not.

 

[F-111 John]

Gary,

You saw the banner and just believed we support Glock Talk financially. I didn't want people to get the wrong Impression. We really appreciate Glock running a Banner for us but we do not give Glock talk money to run those banners telling its readers about Handunlaw.us

Understood and I never thought that handgunlaw.us financally supports this board. BTW, we're on The High Road, not Glock Talk!

 

[CharlieDeltaJuliet]

I was meaning that even though the state recognizes the right to CCW in certian areas that the " no firearms " signs beat that. Yes they are the law. Sorry about the confusion. Yes they do carry the weight of law.

dbp, To be honest I am. Ot sure about if the signs have to be uniform. I have ssen only two types. One that has the pistol with a line through it and another that was only words that said NO Weapons concealed or otherwise. So one of these other guys would know better than I.

I wish the laws were more uniform, and states would work to make them so. I hate the fact that some states do not recognize the right for citizens to carry concealed. I love Alaskas policy on CCW and wish other states including NC had policies that were likewise.

 

[Gary Slider]

F-111 John, That will teach me to have to many windows open. I knew Glock Talk was putting up a banner for us and I assumed and you know what that does for me. Sorry about that.

 

[basicblur]

Yes they are the law. Sorry about the confusion. Yes they do carry the weight of law.

Excellent - using the phrase carries the weight of law sure does trim up the conversation, or at least gives one a bit of a synopsis before your eyes glaze over and you're bombarded with hundreds of words when often only six words are required (signs carry the weight of law).